I am an orthodox Christian, ask me a question!

[Jon Paul]

Please link me to your argument. Maybe I was reading something else as I was sure it was a cosmo argument. Kalam or not? Is it the Kalam one you are using or your own?

Both of my arguments in this thread are sketched out within the first three pages of the thread. And no, I have not yet laid out the kalam cosmological argument, if that's what you mean. But I can do that, if you want me to.

An argument, JP style:

That is a caricature of the analytic argument, which indeed is not an evidential argument, because it is an analytic argument. That is not an argument against it. And of course, you choose to mock the non-evidential argument, wholly ignoring the argument from potentiality and actuality.

The law of (non)contradiction is testable, god is not.

First, that is not an answer to the question I actually asked.

Second, tell me how logic can be tested without first presuming logic. For instance, in the case of the law of contradiction, how do you conclude that a contradiction of the law of contradiction has been made on grounds of experience, without first assuming the very fact of the law of contradiction, namely the fact of contradiction?