(March 19, 2012 at 7:44 pm)Drich Wrote:(March 18, 2012 at 10:06 pm)mediamogul Wrote:(March 18, 2012 at 10:02 pm)Drich Wrote: [quote='mediamogul' pid='256972' dateline='1332121075']
What if I told you that god just told me it wasn't true?
i would ask you why you are not doing more with a revelation from God than using it as a trump card in a theological discussion? then i would seek to verify your claim through the processes we have been given to verify your status as a prophet.
(You would be the first to make such claims)
So you would want some evidence. OK now we are making progress.
Now imagine it wasn't me saying that god had spoken to me. Imagine it was a book where someone had written that god had spoken to them stating that the flood was not a true story and I was saying that this book demonstrated that Noah did not exist. What would you say then?
Perhaps you should first identify the method in which the "evidence" is being weighed. (I think it would save us some time in your step by step)
My point being that this is exactly what you are asking us to do! You have a book and in it you say was written that god spoke to these people or "inspired" their stories. You ask me for evidence when I make exactly the same claims and rightly you should. However, when we ask you for evidence you say that it is not a matter of evidence, fact, or logic but instead faith. Do you see the problem? You have no reason to believe what I said anymore than I have reason to believe what you said. There are lots of people in the world holding books that have stories written in them that said god spoke to them. Stories you know are untrue because they can't be. It's easy to see it when it is someone else's religion. So why is it you think that just because YOU happen to be the one holding the book now that says god spoke to someone that it has any more validity than the others?
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." -Friedrich Nietzsche
"All thinking men are atheists." -Ernest Hemmingway
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." -Voltaire
"All thinking men are atheists." -Ernest Hemmingway
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." -Voltaire