Noah's Ark

[mediamogul]

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Religious people of every faith make that same argument from personal experience.

You do not understand the arguements that are being made. At best you have taken key words and painted with a very broad bush to come to this conclusion. (Fallacy of sweeping generalization)

They then use that to justify the truth of their books and beliefs. They are literally making the same arguments as you.

Then you do not understand the arguement. I listed a set of parmeters in which one could test, and yeild a verifiable result. This is something blind faith believers do not do. Appearently this is the arguement you need me to argue in order for your rehearsed efforts to work. Because you keep returning to this broken line of thought over and over again.

You wish to trivialize and dismiss without addressing any of the prameters that i have said can be tested 4 times now. What are you afraid of? Why do you move with sweaping generalizations and Ignore what I have written in favor of trying to classify my words as a familiar response so you can quickly dismiss? Why dismiss when you can test? That is unless you have already closed you mind to any conclusions you have not already preapproved.

You demand evidence from them but demand that we accept your beliefs on your arguments of faith.

Absolutly NOT! I have now mention TESTABLE Promises written out in scripture a minimum of 5 times now, that anyone can with the right Mind/Heart can bank on.
I have absolutly all the evidence I will ever need. It was tailored to my every concern and question.

It is the question you still have not answered. Why don't you believe someone who is claiming to have had the exact same experience as you just in another religion?

1) you have not asked this question till now, 2)Your answer: Because no one else has claimed this yet.

It is against the Muslim doctrine to claim what i can.
It is against the Mormon Doctrine to Claim what i can.
It is against the Jewish Doctrine to Claim what I can.

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So no one of other faiths prays? No one of other faiths believes that god has answered their prayers and that is proof of their gods existence? No other books say these same things that your book says? Come now. Of course they do. It is not an oversimplification if it really is that simple. It is the religious folks who try to make it more "more complicated than that". People in Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, etc all believe that they have a personal relationship with god. The circular logic runs like this: I know god is real because the bible tells me he is. I know the bible is real because my experience of god verifies it. My experience of god is real because it matches what was written in the bible. I know the bible is real because my experience of god verifies it. my experience of god is real because the bible says it is. And so on ad infinitum. Every religion says this. If we can't at least agree on that then there is no point in continuing this discussion.