RE: I am an orthodox Christian, ask me a question!
August 13, 2009 at 5:03 pm
(This post was last modified: August 13, 2009 at 5:14 pm by Jon Paul.)
(August 13, 2009 at 4:44 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: There is, as far as I know, no "Law of Contradiction", there is only a definition of what "contradiction" means. I accept there is a principle that can be derived from that but isn't a law.The law of contradiction I mentioned only relatively late in the debate. Sure, there are definitions of what is truly contradictory or not, but that doesn't invalidate the law of contradiction; it invalidates perhaps some supposed self-contradictions.
Object X, say, my mobile phone, or Mount Ararat, or an olive branch, cannot both exist in the sense same on the same time, and not exist in the same sense on the same time. To deny that that would be a contradiction (meaning that one thing excludes -contradicts- the other) you would be the one who would have to argue over definitions and semantics, to define a contradiction into existence, by defining that say, Mt. Ararat, both exists and doesn't exist in the same sense on the same time, based on some semantic argument (surely some would do this).
As Avicenna says (from the wikipedia page on it): Anyone who denies the law of non-contradiction should be beaten and burned until he admits that to be beaten is not the same as not to be beaten, and to be burned is not the same as not to be burned.
The people who are the most bigoted are the people who have no convictions at all.
-G. K. Chesterton
-G. K. Chesterton