(March 23, 2012 at 7:09 pm)Insanity x Wrote:If china had won, it would have done so against the many foreign dynasties that had ruled it. They themselves knew that their numbers amounted to nothing, as Sun Tzu said, "In battle, numbers alone confer no advantage.".(March 23, 2012 at 7:01 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Friend, I've said it thousands of times before.
I deal in terms of numbers and nations.
I measure the worth of my people in what our ancestors have done, and what we can amount to in the future.
I measure my individual worth in how I can be of service to my own people, and how I can aid in creating a better future for them.
Numbers? then china wins.
Many countries have done much more.
Would you consider all German's mass murderers on the actions of their ancestors?
Only your own people? Isn't it more worthy to try to further humanity as a whole?
However, being numerically too small leaves you at a disadvantage. We Turks number about 250 millions on this earth. We're numerically smaller than the Arabs, correct. We're numerically smaller than the Chinese, Europeans, or Slavs. But still not as small as to be swallowed.
That is why the small number of Uyghurs, Salars, Dongxiang and Inner Mongolians survive in China, Turanians are survivors. We were born of harsh conditions. We live our lives according to it, whether we have to suffer a foreing occupation, or an invasion.
And as for *humanity*...Friend, the future of humanity as a whole is of course important.
But one must correct the faults within one's own house first before helping the your neighborhood.
Our house is the Turkish world. Once we have corrected the faults, archived unity, economic stability, a unified language and alphabet, in short, the *red apple*, Turan, we will of course extend our helping hand to the rest of the world.
Not doing so, would be against our character. However, we expect to be treated fairly by the rest of the world at the same time, and until now, we have not been treated fairly. Under these circumstances, I choose to ignore the rest of humanity, until we have archived a sense of unity, brotherhood, and stability within out own people.
Quote:Would you consider all German's mass murderers on the actions of their ancestors?Of course, this sounds like a controversial topic, but yes, of course.
If not, why did the Germans pay reparations for things that they themselves did not commit?
These were paid from their own pockets, not from somewhere else.
A nation is accountable for the good and bad deeds of his ancestors. Of course, in the case of Germany, they were forced to pay for the sins of their ancestors, and are still forced to do so, by keeping the EU alive.
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