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March 25, 2012 at 3:48 am (This post was last modified: March 25, 2012 at 4:12 am by Godscreated.)
(March 18, 2012 at 6:23 pm)mediamogul Wrote:
(March 17, 2012 at 1:00 am)Godschild Wrote:
(March 15, 2012 at 8:00 am)average Wrote:
Godschild. The story of Moses holding the sea back is another myth. There are no vowels in Aramaic nor Hebrew, therefore in the scriptures the Red sea would be wriiten as....rd s. This has been mistranslated and should be Reed Sea. [which would still be written as rd s] The Reed Sea is at the edge of the Mediterranean sea at the curve where Egypt meets Israel.
The volcano at Mt Etna had exploded thus causing a Tsunami. This in turn caused the sea to withdraw. That's when Moses and his people crossed. As the sea came back in with avengeance, it drowned all the warriors and covered their chariots. The flames in the sky, supposedly God's anger was the flames from the volcano but because of the curve of the earth, only those flames could be seen from the Reed Sea and not the volcano. There has been found lots of larva in the area.
There is a scientific explanation for stories in the bible.
Another problem I have believing is when God supposedly said...'I will send Satan to the four corners of the earth.'
Well, there aren't four corners, its a sphere and if God created/designed the universe he would know that and would have said, 'I will send Satan round the earth. People of those times believed the earth was flat, as a carpet and that the mountains were positioned to weigh it down so that it wouldn't float away.
Greek mythology....Jesus only spoke in parables. If you study them, it's very much like Greek philosophy to me.
I have read the New International Bible a couple of times. I find the old testament just full of violence. They smite them and we smite them etc.
Plus when Moses and his people had reached the desert and out of Egypt. The Lord supposedly went to Moses' tent daily. On one visit, he instructed that any families with teenagers had to pay shekkles and all the monies had to go to Aaron Moses' brother...nice eh? I do think that the reference to the Lord in this story should have read warlord.
If you'd study yourself instead of believing everything as read, you'd come to realise how silly a lot of the scriptures are.
BTW, I was a practicing Christian until my 40s, when it began to dawn on me that the whole subject is a load of fairy tales/parables and designed to keep the peasants of that time under control. Indeed control/power/wealth are still the essence of it today. A good example as to how hypocritical religion is, is when it was revealed that the Vatican City managed their own a birth control pill factory running at great profit!!!!
I'm fully aware there were no vowels used, that however does not mean we have mistaken the Sea of Reeds for the Red Sea. The direction that Moses took does not lead them across the Sea Of Reeds, the crossing is at the Red Sea. The words reed and red are not spelled alike in the Hebrew.
As for your idea that a tsunami was responsible, when a tsunami wave pulls the water from the shore line there would not be enough time to get that many people across before the deadly water returned. Then you have to account for an army of chariots to move into place also, time of a tsunami event would not allow for your idea. Sorry you need to research thoroughly.
The idea of people of that time believing the earth was flat and square is crazy. When God spoke of the four corners of the earth He was referring to the cardinal directions of north, south, east and west. Those directions would cover the planet.
Jesus spoke in more than parables, I thought you said you had read the NT, Jesus used parables to teach truth and at times to hide the truth until He could reveal the truth to His disciples.
If smiting is all you have gotten from the OT then it's no wonder you have rejected scripture and the God who inspired it. I do study scripture and study seriously, I see nothing silly about scripture, what I do see is God's wonderful plan of salvation which begins in Genesis. The OT is a guiding marker to Christ, what do you think the disciples used when they preached the salvation that Jesus brought. I hope you do not think they used the NT.
You and others speak of control, who is doing the controlling and exactly why? Who would benefit from this control you speak of, and do you seriously believe that such an action could be keep from the churches of this day, that has to be one of the most ridiculous accusations I've ever heard. Just because you lost your faith does not in any way make christians stupid, how blind one must be to believe such nonsense.
So where does raping and murdering children come into this plan? Yahweh seems to hand out these things as rewards for conquest. He says "Have at it boys! You earned it!" Then celebrate it later in a Psalm "Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." -- Psalm 137:9. Your enemy's child is so much fun to kill! So be happy while you do it!
You need to read scriptures in full and come to an understanding of what is written, stop going to sights that put a negative spin on christianity and determine for yourself what scripture says, if you can. Psalm 137:9, the psalmist is writing about revenge, this is thoughts of the broken heart, God inspired this psalm to show how much suffering Israel was going through because of their disobedience. God told them if they continued down that path He would punish them.
(March 19, 2012 at 5:34 am)average Wrote:
Godschild wrote.....#I'm fully aware there were no vowels used, that however does not mean we have mistaken the Sea of Reeds for the Red Sea. The direction that Moses took does not lead them across the Sea Of Reeds, the crossing is at the Red Sea. The words reed and red are not spelled alike in the Hebrew.
As for your idea that a tsunami was responsible, when a tsunami wave pulls the water from the shore line there would not be enough time to get that many people across before the deadly water returned. Then you have to account for an army of chariots to move into place also, time of a tsunami event would not allow for your idea. Sorry you need to research thoroughly.#
There weren't many people then. In Israel in biblical times there were 180,000 inhabitants for the whole country. It would be similar in Egypt. So there wouldn't be thousands of people following Moses.
When it says flocks of people gathered to hear Jesus at the sermon on the mount....mount again is a mistranslation; it should read...mound. I have been to Israel and stood on the 'mount' it is a mound, about 15 feet long and about 4 feet high. There is no way thousands could flock there. there'd be about two dozen.
That's the best you can do, put up small numbers to defend your point, there were hundreds of thousands, YITW says there were four generations, he's wrong. Israel was in Egypt 400 years and a generation spans about 40 years, so there were 10 generations and without birth control couples had many children, this allows for sufficient time to produce a large number of people. As for the Sermon on the Mount, I do not know how big the mount is, nor do I know you were at the correct place, what I do know is Jesus was teaching His disciples and that would be a dozen even, well within your numbers. Yes there were many in attendance but Jesus voice wold not have been able to carry over a great distance, especially outdoors.
(March 18, 2012 at 6:12 pm)average Wrote:
(March 18, 2012 at 4:49 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(March 18, 2012 at 9:07 am)average Wrote: #The idea of people of that time believing the earth was flat and square is crazy. When God spoke of the four corners of the earth He was referring to the cardinal directions of north, south, east and west. Those directions would cover the planet. #
Godschild. .........North, south, east, west are directions, not corners. Can you just hold this tennis ball at its four corners please?
Yes I can at the north, south, east and west, you guys claim to be smart yet you can not see something as simple as this.
There are definitely no corners on a tennis ball or any other ball/sphere, neither are there any on earth. Shame how people are brain washed with rubbish from birth............
Read Isaiah 40:22 and you will see stated that the earth is a circle, and if I'm not mistaken a circle has no corners, so hence the cardinal directions. You guys really should get some brains.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
