Are theists by nature simply insecure?

[Kyuuketsuki]

But I maintain that I absolutely cannot convince you that the things I see as evidence for the existence of god are actually such. I don't claim to be able to prove god. I have no evidence I can share with you here.

So nothing but wishful thinking then!

That's why I ask you guys to prove Atheism. You seem to always swing back with the "burden of proof" trap, but I am doing it to try to show that there is no way you can show me conclusive evidence that there is not god. Especially by only typing across the Atlantic. We could both say that the other won't understand the evidence that seems undeniable to ourselves because they are just raging stupids... But that is still circular.

Atheism makes no claims so there's nothing to prove.

You're right ... there is no way we can prove there is no god but LIKEWISE there is no way you can prove there is no cream cake at the centre of the Earth (and yes, claims to the existence of deity are exactly on that level of stupidity)!

So in an attempt to agree to disagree, and knowing that it would be a long and pointless conversation, I am trying to avoid shoving proof of god down your throats, knowing it won't get anywhere. Buy you keep asking for it.

Because we tend to be humanists and that's what humanists do. Given that NOTHING has ever been proven by religious beliefs and that the only accepted explanations (by accepted I mean by scientific, theological and general academics ... IOW people capable of raising a decent intelligent argument) have been scientific/mathematical I consider that to be the correct manner to approach your claims.

Me and Evie are having this same issue right now.

And he is absolutely correct to do so.

Kyu