(August 15, 2009 at 9:36 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: So the question perhaps is fr0d0, just whether you really believe God didn't exist, or just 'fell out with him', or are 'disingenious' (or something to that effect), as Kyu seems to be suggesting...something like that?
I really did believe God didn't exist yeah. I made a conscious choice in that moment and ceased to believe in God. One minute, God. the next minute, no God. You don't believe this is possible?
I had no beef with God. I had no issue I was mad at him for, no unanswered questions or issues at all that gave me that reason to disbelieve. I hated people from my old church (I'd left and gone to another for about 18 months), and I disliked much about my old church, like the traditionalism that stifled modernism. I made an amicable departure whilst my wife stayed. I even discussed it with our Ministers who I was quite close to. Bad people does not = bad Christianity.. I knew this then like I know it now.
As time passed I grew more militant in my atheism. Now I was very anti religion/ esp Christianity and made my wife's life (who's been a Christian since she was about 16 (she's also from a household of non believers)) hell at times. I remember a great argument I had with her ministers when they wanted me to agree to participating in our child's baptism.
I suppose I don't need you or anyone to believe me. Like Kyu comes out with the statement that he was a Christian - from birth presumably. But then I don't fully understand the Catholic system. The bible says a person has to make a conscious decision for. Kyu denies this clause I think.
Belief isn't some uninformed notion. Otherwise there really is no difference in believing in those other contenders (
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