(August 15, 2009 at 7:20 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You mean compelled in the same way you're compelled to believe in the truck's existence? That would be ridiculous do you agree?No. What's the difference? You either believe something is so or not right?
Quote:I think you're making unnecessary hard work of this. Either that or please try to say precisely what you mean, because it's not clear.You either believe something or you don't. This is the case with a truck, and with anything else. Can I make that any clearer? How is it different with God exactly? You still either believe he exists or you don't!
Quote:So I believe to believe in God right?By belief in belief I mean, you believe that belief in God is good...because if you believe he actually exists then how is that not the same kind of belief as anything else? Either you believe he exists or you don't - just like with everything else! You believe it is so or you don't!
Quote:MY use of the word belief is different.What's your definition here then? You don't mean belief as in believing 'X' exists or not?
Quote: That's why I bring up transcendentalism. You don't accept transcendentalism. I believe in a transcendental God. You cannot then understand the choice to believe. Simple.Can you please explain the difference for me? Transcendental or not...how does that change the fact that you either believe it...or you don't? Either X exists or it doesn't.
Quote:You're trying to understand my statement, not assert your own beliefs.
I'm trying to do both and comparing. And trying to see what on earth you mean if you don't mean you either believe 'X' exists or you don't. And how exactly that could be any different for God.
How is belief in God any different to belief in a truck, if we're talking about existence here? It's still a belief in whether something exists or not. And you are either convinced by that or you aren't. So what's the difference between the two?
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