(August 15, 2009 at 11:50 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: We cannot know. there is no try.Whether you can know or not is irrelevant to the question "Do you believe 'X' exists?" - you can believe regardless of knowledge. You can believe on faith or on evidence - but you still either have a belief or you don't. Although perhaps there's an "unsure" mode when you "don't know what you believe", but we're not dealing with for instance, apatheism here. And besides, on a deeper level apatheists probably - at least quite a bit - hold a yes or no answer to the question: on a deeper level. Like subconsciously or something like that, I reckon.
fr0d0 Wrote:So you agree now that there is a choice of believing in God or not then Evie?
A mechanical involuntary choice - without 'free will' - that isn't something you can just muse over. Not what I'd ever call a "choice".
It's not like picking a flavour packet of crisps for instance. Both cases are mechanical, but with crisps it's a "hmm, I'll have that one" - a choice. Beliefs aren't like that. Beliefs you either believe something or you don't, compelled by your experience.
EvF