(August 16, 2009 at 12:08 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Beliefs are a bit more of a permanent choice than the flavour of crisps you'd choose..Beliefs aren't like choosing a flavour of crips, that's my point. Whether it's free or un-free, you still 'choose a flavour', when it come to the crisps... but with beliefs, you either have a belief or you don't (or perhaps arguably, you're apathetic, as in 'apatheism', but that's not what we're discussing here) - and you are either convinced or unconvinced by things. The flavour of crisps is still a "choice" in some sense (like, externally at least) even though (at least to us) it is done mechanically... but with beliefs, how are they anything like it? Beliefs aren't about 'choosing' as a packet of crisps are. You're either convinced or you're not, you have your reasons... but you don't 'choose' those reasons and you don't think "hmm, I think I'll be an atheist" or "Hmmm...I'll opt for theism".
Quote:An EvF'ism... In choosing my choice I only chose what choice I had to choose.
Or as I put it: You have options but you have no option over which options you opt for.
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