RE: I am an orthodox Christian, ask me a question!
August 17, 2009 at 2:35 pm
(This post was last modified: August 17, 2009 at 2:41 pm by Kyuuketsuki.)
(August 16, 2009 at 8:02 pm)Jon Paul Wrote:(August 16, 2009 at 5:52 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Wasn't it you that said you couldn't say some things without resorting to the psychobabble you use? Yet now you say I am saying the same thing (and I used English)! Seems to me you just contradicted yourself and that you should try to talk English instead of complete bollocks!
It's only psychobabble if you don't understand it, aren't willing to spend time or energy to understand it, or are just looking for an excuse to discount it without engaging the substance in it.
Nice dodge (and BTW I included the full quote, the rest in italics, so no one would think that was all I said to you), maybe you'll actually answer the question sometime? Oh, and I never said the other bit you attributed to me!
Kyu
(August 17, 2009 at 2:03 pm)Jon Paul Wrote: God does not "come into existence", a temporal designation that doesn't apply to a transcendent being, so your question is fallacious at it's root. And as I've said, there cannot be many gods, because that implies the potentiality for separated individuating differentiation in pure actuality, and in pure actuality, there is no potentiality, only actuality. As to whether God has any choice in his existence; God is himself the autonomic and subsistent actuality of existence, so his eternal act of existence is equal to his actual existence.
In which case the multiverse also never came into existence in a temporal sense (time being a an attribute of our universe) ... so what created what (and how do you establish this to be so beyond fairytale wishful thinking?
Kyu
(August 17, 2009 at 1:28 pm)Jon Paul Wrote: What is pure actuality must be one since there is no way for one thing to differ from another in its being unless there is some real potentiality for differentiation. But in a being of pure actuality there is no potential whatsoever. Hence, there there is no real differentiation in it. All of it is one; there cannot be two or more, since neither would really be different from the other in its being and would thus be one, rather than two.
All this psychobabble about pure actuality and all that is just a dodge to stop you having to make any sense ... all it is is post modernist claptrap!
Kyu
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