(April 5, 2012 at 8:42 am)mediamogul Wrote: GC lets be honest. You are going to believe what you are going to believe regardless of what i say to you. This is the part where you feign open mindedness and then proceed to restate your beliefs. I don't feel as though a fundamentalist such as yourself is really here for discussion. It's more of a mission.
Also if we want to get really nitpicky about it Catholics state that we are saved through both "the grace of god" and works theirein. One can fall out of favor with god through sin and needs to be reconciled through an intermediary. Enter the church. This move essentially secured the Catholic church as one of the most powerful institutions of the last 1500 years. Convince someone that you hold the key to their salvation and then keep them knee deep in sin so they have to continuously rely upon you to not fall out of favor with god and there you have it recipe for power and wealth. Pretty brilliant and worked like a charm.
I have no mission here, to have a mission I would need goals and I haven't set any, other than to learn.
Again I say that salvation comes through the Grace of God which is unmerited. It seems to me that you want to make an issue of this and I have asked you to back up your statements with verses from scripture, if you do not then why bother saying anything, unless you're trying to mess around with Christians just to entertain yourself.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
