Are faith, God and love without deeds, dead?

[Welsh cake]

I have no mission here, to have a mission I would need goals and I haven't set any, other than to learn.

The point mediamogul was making that you proceeded to ignore and dismiss the rest as some kind of 'ad hominem' against Christians was you're not here to learn.

What have you 'learned' exactly? Apart from seeking to confirm your presumptions about atheists in general.

Let's cut the crap. You're here to strengthen your faith and your beliefs in sky daddy. Nothing more. That's why talking to you on most days is so, *sigh*, mind-numbingly bloody tedious. You make magic man sound so damn boring you've nearly converted me to apatheism where I no longer even care what you believe any more.

Quite frankly I don't even care if you have enough intellectual honesty and integrity to admit that. The least you can do is stop insulting our intelligence with that baseless and patronising assertion "I only want to learn!" over and over again. Knock it off already. >_>

I starting to see a reoccurring theme with you guys. "God doesn't love us the way we think he should therefore God can not exist."

Obviously not the god you're claiming exists. If you argue there's an omni-benevolent god and we submit to you a reality that demonstrably counters it completely, then clearly you have one heck of a refutation to overcome.

What if for some reason you all have misunderstood the concept of "love?" What if you misunderstand the conditions of God's love? What if you misunderstand the concept that "God is love" above all else?

What if Hell is real and we'll ponder that semantics question while we're being tortured for all eternity?

If you and God are not working on the same definition of "love" then how can God be expected to meet your understanding?

I guess God, being the all-powerful creator of all reality and causality, is clearly under-qualified for the task you propose.

Perhaps you should define "love," to see if you and God are even talking about the same thing.

You first since you're claiming there's a God whose 'love' we don't understand.

Do you love unconditionally? or does your love have limits?

No. Love has conditions I'm afraid. It has limits.

If you have the ability to discern who you are and are not going to love, and also put conditions on that love then why would you put a limitation on God's ability to do the same?

So what is "God who is love" when he doesn't love someone?

The bible does say "God is Love."

The writer must have been high that day. The Bible says a lot of things friend. Books usually do.

What is Identified as His defining characteristic is what He calls Righteousness. This righteousness has Him Flood the World, Kill women and Children, Have His people conquered and enslaved and ultimately has His own Son beaten and nailed to a cross.

Righteousness isn't love. Your god may have a love for "justice" and smiting others, but that isn't love. Even you should be able to appreciate the difference.

God's leading attribute is not "love" but Righteousness.

Is your god concept omni-benevolent, as in all-loving, or not?

God's love is made manifest in the works and deeds of those who love Him.

At least we can both agree unconditional love is nonsense then.

You seem to have over looked all of what Christian Charities, and people have done for this world.

You seem to have overlooked all of what the secular non-religious Charities, and people have done for this world.

Christians do not give of themselves. Christians give to God out of Love.

Yes because you love to love God and want him to reciprocate that feeling. Love is intrinsically selfish like that mate.