Are faith, God and love without deeds, dead?

[Godscreated]

I have no mission here, to have a mission I would need goals and I haven't set any, other than to learn.

The point mediamogul was making that you proceeded to ignore and dismiss the rest as some kind of 'ad hominem' against Christians was you're not here to learn.

What have you 'learned' exactly? Apart from seeking to confirm your presumptions about atheists in general.

Let's cut the crap. You're here to strengthen your faith and your beliefs in sky daddy. Nothing more. That's why talking to you on most days is so, *sigh*, mind-numbingly bloody tedious. You make magic man sound so damn boring you've nearly converted me to apatheism where I no longer even care what you believe any more.

Quite frankly I don't even care if you have enough intellectual honesty and integrity to admit that. The least you can do is stop insulting our intelligence with that baseless and patronising assertion "I only want to learn!" over and over again. Knock it off already. >_>

Yes Welsh that's exactly what I'm saying. You have shown clearly that you are not here to learn but to defend at all costs your interpretation of religion, scripture, god, etc... Evidence of this is how you poisoned the well before you asked for scripture quotes "Please show me scriptures that say works is the way to salvation, I've defended against this before, hope to see some scriptures that are different, gets boring repeating the same things." You don't actually want to have a discussion, you just want to practice defending your beliefs agains new quotes thrown at you.

So you want to "learn"? Exactly what do you want to learn? Why does someone who argues the same circular logic over and over and never concedes even a SINGLE point come to an atheist forum? There are other theists on this forum who are able and willing to discuss with a certain amount of intellectual honesty and integrity. Conceding when logic does not back their point and at least admitting that they have some rethinking to do. This fundamentalist style of belief that you maintain is the most dangerous style of belief. Read the Voltaire quote in my signature. So if you want to discuss, great, but my point is that I doubt you want to discuss or even learn. Someone who just wanted to learn wouldn't do so much arguing with the other side and getting upset when their logic is disproven. Welsh is exactly right, you are here to practice your arguments. That's it. Have some honesty and admit it.

I'm here to learn, when I'm presented with situations from scripture that make scripture seem to be contradictory I have to read and study to find the answer to problem put before me. If there is someway this is not learning please show me where I'm wrong. Yes I do defend the scriptures when people misinterpret them so grossly. I do not practice argument, I just put out the scriptures to show the truth, if you and others do not want to accept it that's not my fault. I've also learned that some nonbelievers are decent people, while others show they have no respect for anyone who thinks differently than they do, and I mean anyone. I've witnessed nonbelievers argue over the most ridiculous things, putting each other down over petty issues, people should have more respect than that.