(August 18, 2009 at 5:12 pm)Jon Paul Wrote:(August 18, 2009 at 5:10 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Yes you did but you specifically used it in such a way as to imply (more than imply IMO) that those who assume reality is the default state are wrong.No, they are not wrong. I stated from the beginning in that discussion that I am a realist.
A realist would assume that reality exists ... you live in a metaphysical fantasy world.
(August 18, 2009 at 5:12 pm)Jon Paul Wrote:(August 18, 2009 at 5:10 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Are you now retracting that? Do you accept that quantum physics in no way demonstrates reality to not exist?What quantum mechanics demonstrates depends on the interpretation, arealist/acausalist (Copenhagen orthodoxy) or realist/causalist (Bohm).
No, it doesn't because quantum mechanics describes physical reality, how matter is composed of molecules & atoms and how they are composed of yet smaller particles still.
Kyu
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