I am an orthodox Christian, ask me a question!

[Jon Paul]

So I'm supposed to accept that the gospels were written earlier because some think the guy had predictive powers?

No. Wrong way around. You are not supposed to believe the earliest Gospels were written down after 70 A.D. for any other reason than presupposing that for them to be earlier, they have to really "predict" the fall of Jerusalem, rather than it being a coincidence or reasonable anticipation - and, after that presupposition, if you then further presuppose that to have to be either impossible or supernatural, of course you will say they were written after 70 A.D. on the grounds of the philosophical presupposition that no such thing can happen, though it isn't even neccesary -to begin with- to admit to such a supposedly real prediction being necessary for an earlier date. All other facts indicate a much earlier date, and for that reason earlier documents like Q have been proposed.

Seriously though, if we make the assumption (and it is a massive assumption) that prophecy is real, and people can predict the future, history is screwed. You could just as easily use that to place a ridiculous date on any person's existence.

That is, if you a) presuppose that it is necessarily a real prediction rather than a coincidence or just a reasonable anticipation, and on top of that unwarranted presupposition, b) discount the fact that all other facts indicate an earlier date. Neither are necessary, and you don't have to admit that it was a real "prophecy" just because you don't postpone the date.

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Your not going to give his post serious treatment because it is a direct challenge to your belief about Jesus. He's skeptical, so what's your response? To attack his question as "extremely pessimistic and antipathic"

A challenge? Not at all. I already made long posts about it, actually arguing for my viewpoint.

until you arrive at "the first Gospel was written down later than all other facts indicate"

No, that is not what I said. Obviously you are having reading problems. Try reading again.

[...] rather than taking it to mean that the first Gospel was written down later than all other facts indicate.

I'm so dizzy I can barely clarify that you have presented no facts just arguments of possibilities that you have researched and tracked down to support your belief about Jesus being magic. Are you Sean Hannity? Bill O'Reilly? You could be, you would blow those guys off the set!

I never said I proved Jesus is "magic". Nor was that my intention.