RE: He's crazier than I thought
April 11, 2012 at 10:14 am
(This post was last modified: April 11, 2012 at 10:36 am by Ziploc Surprise.)
(April 10, 2012 at 10:27 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: As a teenager, they put our youth group in the church basement and this 'speaker' told us all about the dangers of listening to KISS and playing D&D. We just laughed. Who listens to KISS anyway?
I do.
(April 11, 2012 at 1:31 am)Cinjin Wrote: It's not funny when the elderly lose their mind, but since ole Pat there lost his right about the time he was "born again" - well, it's pretty god damn funny!As a Christian I had been round and round that issue. Over the years I asked many people why it was bad to listen to rock n roll and I got many many stupid answers. I'll list my favorites below:
(April 10, 2012 at 10:27 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: As a teenager, they put our youth group in the church basement and this 'speaker' told us all about the dangers of listening to KISS and playing D&D. We just laughed. Who listens to KISS anyway?
Awesome, they did the same thing to us in middle school.
They showed us multiple propaganda films about how Kiss and Def Leppard and a multitude of others were actively employed by the devil. Scared the shit outta everybody until we were old enough to know better.
Qu: what is so evil about Rock n roll?
A: "That druid beat" (he meant to say that the music was evil because it had drums in it and the drums had a certain occult beat to it.)
A: Evil satanic music companies put demons into the music.
QU: "How" (I ask)?
A: "Backward masking". Or for some, subliminal messages when played forward.
Qu: "Well if you don't listen to the music backward you don't hear the subliminal message so it's ok."
A: Your brain can figure it out (this is a paraphrase I don't remember exactly what the guy said).
Qu: "How?'
A: silence (they couldn't answer this question)
Another way demons got into the music was through satanic ritual which begs a lot of questions because records are mass produced. If this were true there would be a lot of very busy satanists around, possibly employed full time.
A: "If the heart of the one producing the music (the artist) is evil then the music he or she produces is evil."
Qu: "Then why do you say classical music is not demonic? Some composers had really wild lifestyles."
A: No answer.
A: (my favorite) It's a conspiracy by the evil music companies to warp the minds of young people. Their goal is to (essentially) take over the world. Disclaimer: This last bit is a paraphrase, not a direct quote, of a lot of similar sermons.
I eventually gave up and decided that if the music (not the genera but each song and/or band) was too crude to listen to then I shouldn't listen to it.
I have studied the Bible and the theology behind Christianity for many years. I have been to many churches. I have walked the depth and the breadth of the religion and, as a result of this, I have a lot of bullshit to scrape off the bottom of my shoes. ~Ziploc Surprise