RE: Pascal's Wager and the Selfishness of a "Good God"
April 16, 2012 at 3:38 pm
(This post was last modified: April 16, 2012 at 5:34 pm by Thor.)
(April 16, 2012 at 2:24 pm)sarah888 Wrote: There is only one GOD ,
Oh, yeah? Prove it.
Quote:Christians call him Jesus,
And he has had many other names throughout history. Check out the Mithra fable. It's very similar to your Jesus myth.
Quote:the historic and biblical Man/God.
"Historic" and "biblical" are hardly synonoymous.
Quote:As Christians we believe in the two main principals of the BIBLE , Faith and commandment keeping.
Then how come there's no commandment forbidding rape, assault or slavery?
Quote:If there is no God I have nothing to lose.
Baloney. First off, maybe there is a god, but it's not the one you pray to. Then, when you die, this deity is pissed at you for not believing in him! In order to truly hedge your bets, you'd have to believe in every god ever invented by man. And secondly, nothing to lose? What about all that time you've spent (and continue to spend) worshiping this deity? What about all that time you've spent in church praying to this being? All that money you spent on gas driving to and from church? All those days you could've done something enjoyable instead of sitting in a church? How can you say you've lost nothing? Your life only has so many hours. If you've wasted thousands of them praying to a deity that doesn't exist, how can you seriously say you've lost "nothing"?
Quote:If there is you guys got everything to lose.
So you honestly think an "all-loving" deity is going to toss someone into the firepits of hell merely for not believing? Never mind that they may have been a philanthropist who built hospitals, helped the poor and provided housing for the homeless. Their "crime" of nonbelief is enough to send them to hell for eternity? If that's true, then I'd say your god is an unbelievable prick. Oh, and one more question... how would anyone feel pain from the fire in hell? Once we're dead, our nerves don't work any longer.
Quote:Look at the world,
I do look at the world. It's an incredibly dangerous and brutal place. Which is why I find the notion of a "loving" deity to be laughable.
Quote:look at NDE, why do they all have the same dream or visions of the afterlife,
Means nothing. It has been recorded that pilots have had similar experiences after blacking out due to G-forces. These "visions" are undoubtedly the throes of an oxygen-starved brain. No god necessary!
Quote: why cant science explain medical miracles ,etc.
Just because something can't be explained by modern scientists doesn't mean it's a "miracle". It is simply unexplained! One day it may be explained. Which makes your god only grow smaller and smaller.
Quote:That big ball in the sky where did that come from.
I think scientists can explain how the sun formed. And look! They can! I googled "How did the sun form" and I found this:
How did the sun form?
We believe that the sun formed from a big cloud of gas and dust. The cloud was dark and cold, and its gravity caused it to fall together. The gas that collected at the center got hot from all the other gas falling on it. When nearly all the gas and dust had fallen together, the center became very hot and very dense our sun. Some of the leftover gas and dust going in orbit around this baby sun became the planets.
It's from an article aimed at sixth graders, so I hope you can understand it.
Quote:nothingness.???
Ummm.... I think YOU are the one who thinks everything came from "nothingness".
Quote:IT makes sense to believe in a higher being we call God then not too.
Sure. If you throw your intellect and reasoning ability out the window.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?