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The Truth; You Exist
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The Truth; You Exist
background info on P(R | N&E) Wrote:


Evolution and natural selection don’t care about what the truth is. We did not evolve to be able to comprehend what the truth is, but merely have the right tools just for survival. This raises the question of whether we are capable of actually knowing the truth. This can be expressed as the probability that (R | N&E) is true, which seems quite low. Therefore we are almost inclined to accept that our cognitive faculties don’t have the capabilities of knowing the truth.

From a perspective of pure reasoning, we can in fact demonstrate that our cognitive faculties are indeed capable of comprehending the truth, regardless of N&E. We can show this by the hypothetical case that if something, deemed X, is X and can also be non-X, then the truth does not exist. This is so because one cannot state the truth about the nature of X. This line of reasoning refutes itself as it shows that the argument itself is found to be true. Therefore we have shown that a) the truth exists and b) one derived this conclusion through one’s cognitive faculties. Therefore, one can comprehend the truth.

Something to realise is that although we are able to comprehend the truth, this doesn’t necessarily mean we know that we actually know the truth. For example, let’s assume that the sun has just imploded. My cognitive faculties would tell me that the sun is actually still there because the light hasn’t reached my eyes. Therefore, I don’t have sufficient information to be able to know that the sun has just imploded. Therefore, I don’t know that I don’t know the truth. I know only of the apparent truth. So, if our ability to know that we definitely know the truth is impaired by the information we receive, what can be said about our entire experience of reality? How much do we really know that is actually true? This throws into question one’s ability to know what we know is actually true.

Rene Descartes became aware of this problem and therefore started questioning his very own existence. He realised that by default there is one thing that he knew for certain to be true beyond doubt. It was in fact, his existence; ‘I think, therefore I am’. He realised that the very fact that he was able to think about whether he existed or not must mean he exists. This serves as the starting point of what one knows to be 100% true. As for the rest of reality, it seems we are at the mercy of the universe.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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The Truth; You Exist - by FallentoReason - April 19, 2012 at 8:40 am
RE: The Truth; You Exist - by NoMoreFaith - April 19, 2012 at 9:17 am
RE: The Truth; You Exist - by FallentoReason - April 19, 2012 at 9:39 am
RE: The Truth; You Exist - by genkaus - April 19, 2012 at 11:50 am
RE: The Truth; You Exist - by Welsh cake - April 19, 2012 at 2:05 pm
RE: The Truth; You Exist - by FallentoReason - April 19, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RE: The Truth; You Exist - by genkaus - April 20, 2012 at 3:04 am
RE: The Truth; You Exist - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2012 at 9:51 pm
RE: The Truth; You Exist - by FallentoReason - April 19, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: The Truth; You Exist - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: The Truth; You Exist - by FallentoReason - April 20, 2012 at 5:17 am
RE: The Truth; You Exist - by genkaus - April 20, 2012 at 7:00 am

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