RE: The Truth; You Exist
April 19, 2012 at 9:39 am
(This post was last modified: April 19, 2012 at 10:25 am by FallentoReason.)
(April 19, 2012 at 9:17 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote: You should have taken the blue pill.
I believe we all have a certain dose of the blue pill in our blood stream. Do I know that I know it's true? No, but I don't know if I can know for sure it's not true

genkaus Wrote:I think we are shifting from the topic here. Do you not consider reality to have an objective value?From my OP here, I am implying that there is an objective truth, but I don't know for sure if I'm observing the actually objective truth for certain sometimes.
Quote:Knowledge before observation? When you say the sun hasn't imploded, that statement refers to 8 minutes ago. Its like, looking at the newspaper and saying that what is written is happening now. Its not happening now, it happened yesterday. In case of the sun, you can get away with it under normal circumstances because what was true 8 minutes ago is also true now.I'm not sure if we're agreeing completely or completely disagreeing here. I'll rephrase what I meant by the sun imploding:
The sun just imploded. Tell me, what do you observe right now? The truth about the sun 8 minutes late. For the next 8 minutes you will be telling me the false statement that the sun imploded, without knowing it until you observe it. Therefore, we cannot know for sure the state of the sun instantaneously because our observations were true 8 minutes ago.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle