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Pascal's Wager and the Selfishness of a "Good God"
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RE: Pascal's Wager and the Selfishness of a "Good God"
(April 20, 2012 at 11:28 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote:
(April 20, 2012 at 10:55 am)sarah888 Wrote: Explain, show me ONE phenomenon that has been discovered
by science that was theory.?

You mean like how the sun comes up in the sky and wasn't pushed there by a giant dung beetle? Things like that?

Every scientific explanation has cut away the things previously explained as "goddidit". Almost every single one.

Or do you mean something more mundane?

Ball Lightning? Science got it
Water running up hill? Science got it
Water turning to blood? yeah, we figured that out too
Corpse Candles? blah blah

Your turn; name some Miracles that are undisputed scientific fact. I.e. with evidence to prove the cause of that "miracle" as supernatural

(April 20, 2012 at 10:55 am)sarah888 Wrote: Prove it, why cant NDE's, Medical miracles, etc. etc. etc be explained by your scientist. Again the I dont know theory applies.

Let me state it again. Why do you think that NDE's align with the individuals experiences rather than allow for new information they could not have known.
Instead NDE's commonly state information shown to be false in reality.

Currently unexplained (But several likely theories btw more likely than the supernatural) does not equal "God".

(April 20, 2012 at 10:55 am)sarah888 Wrote: My assertions come from history and faith, they are not assertions, but beliefs and facts.

Belief is assertion of reality without evidence, and therefore cannot be fact, merely belief.

You clearly have not read any history, all you've done, is read the bible and asserted it is historically correct.
Why don't you try writing a history book based on events that happened in the 1800's, based purely on things that people alive today say.
How accurate do you think it'll be.

(April 20, 2012 at 10:55 am)sarah888 Wrote: Why would a Jew or musilum see the afterlife, why would anyone who goes through this experience see anything else but that specific occurance. ???WHY. I know .. YOU DONT KNOW.!

Why do they see, their OWN afterlife. Basically, your argument must be, that all religions are true, because their NDE's confirm what they already culturally predisposed towards.

If you must know, hallucination is a common feature when the mind tries to draw on experiences that do not exist and tries to fill the gaps.
How much experience of dying do you have?
Even more commonly is the presence of hallucination while the brain is oxygen starved.. like... when you are dying. Funny that.

(April 20, 2012 at 10:55 am)sarah888 Wrote: science does not speak regarding all of history, only explains theory and hypothosis regardless of any topic.

I agree. However, nobody said this.
It should also be noted that even Christian historians cannot prove the historical basis of the bible.

Also, science can speak regarding history to a certain extent when historical events are said to affect the whole planet in a noticeable way.

Wheres that flood btw..............

(April 20, 2012 at 10:55 am)sarah888 Wrote:
NoMoreFaith Wrote:All science does, is try to explain the world. All you want to do is deny explanation to preserve a need for magic in your life.
yep. that is real nice.

Doesn't change the facts thou. You actively don't WANT explanations. What you want to do, is assert your explanation for something without evidence.
You want to call something that is unexplained as evidence for your cause. Can you not see a basic problem with this?

Its not a matter of being nice, the matter is that you have no filter for the imaginary. You accept what you have been told without any critical thinking whatsoever, and then you have the audacity to claim what you've been told is a FACT™.
That is truly offensive to anyone seeking a truthful answer in this world.

Finally. Learn how to use forum tags.. please... bold isn't helping. There are some great guides to BBCode (thats what you use for bold which you've worked out). Now could you please learn to use the [ quote ] (spaces intentional) tags. It would be very helpful, cheers.


As an Atheist your beliefs are based upon Evidence that is based upon physical measurement of some kind. It does not refer to evidence that only has been personally observed by every individual nor is it only of a visible nature.. So, any atheist who denies the possible existence of God violates his own worldview.

You simply deny history, you exclude a man known as Jesus of Nazereth..

"Creation is made of particles, indiscernible to our eyes (Hebrews 11:3). Not until the 19th century was it discovered that all visible matter consists of invisible elements.

"
message from mr. Darwin "In my most extreme fluctuations I have never been an Atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God” – Letters of Charles Darwin "

Sarah
I use bold to see better.



(April 20, 2012 at 11:27 am)Insanity x Wrote: I may have to convert. I think god made these kinds of people to amuse me. There is no other explanation!


"message from mr. Darwin "In my most extreme fluctuations I have never been an Atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God” – Letters of Charles Darwin "

Sarah


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RE: Pascal's Wager and the Selfishness of a "Good God" - by sarah888 - April 20, 2012 at 1:00 pm

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