RE: Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true
April 22, 2012 at 11:40 am
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2012 at 11:43 am by Cyberman.)
(April 22, 2012 at 6:42 am)Jireh Wrote: If God does not exist, good and evyl cannot exist.
Correct. Good and "evyl" do not exist. There are only varying levels of wellbeing and harm. Generally speaking, actions are judged against how much of each they create, with those causing more harm than welllbeing adjudged wrong, bad or evil.
Quote:Everything is relative, and you set your morals, according to your preferences.
Oops, sorry but no. We, all of us including you, set our morals according to the society in which we are brought up, with a dash of natural empathy for flavour. We humans are a social species with thousands of years of co-existence under our collective belts. Which is why those who act against society's rules, be they housebreakers or child molesters, are rounded up and isolated from society. It's not the be-all and end-all, of course, but it's nowhere near the fairy tale that we do what we feel like because we don't have a pet god in a box to tell us not to do things.
Quote:There is nobody that can say, you are wrong and right.
Other than our own consciences, family, friends, law enforcement, society at large, then you have a point. Under your hat.
Quote:If Hitler thought, he was right in doing, what he did, who can tell him, that is not true, he was wrong ?
The combined forces of Britain, America, France, Russia, Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, China, Denmark, Greece, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, South Africa and Yugoslavia. Not to mention all the brave men and women from Axis nations who chose to risk, and in many cases lose, their lives fighting for the Allied cause. (And I'm sure there are others around here more history-savvy than I am who are going to pounce on me mercilessly after this).
Really, this simplistic binary view of the world in terms of good/evil or black/white is both naïve and harmful. If it were shown to you, unequivocally and absolutely, that your god does not exist, to what depths of depravity would you sink?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
