(April 22, 2012 at 9:38 pm)Jireh Wrote:(April 22, 2012 at 7:30 pm)Cinjin Wrote: In fact, I said that some people (anti-Semites) applaud and praise Hitler's actions as Good even though I, and much of the world, found them to be Evil.
So why has your opinion more value, or is more true, than theirs ? isnt it just a matter of opinion ? How can you say, your point of view is superior of theirs ?
I NEVER once said that my opinion was superior you lying god sucking piece of !!!!! ... I was pointing out that YOUR morality is NOT superior and that you have absolutely no justification for your post ... and STILL don't!. The fact that you're trying to switch this around on me tells me that you're purposely trolling.
Quote:My point was and remains, no one here cares what you think about our standards of morality when the Christian standards are often set LOWER than that of us "heathens."
(April 22, 2012 at 9:38 pm)Jireh Wrote: lower based on what standard ?
Yours!
Quote:Ramble on about what ever you want, but don't expect anyone here to take you seriously when you're saddling us with the choices of Adolf Hitler ... a known, practicing CHRISTIAN!!!!
J Wrote:Anyone can call himself a christian. One thing is to claim to be christian, a other thing is in fact to be one. hitler was obviously not a christian, otherwise he would have not done what he did.
LMAO!! Not only did you just use the no true scotsman defense, but you went and proved my point. God damn, you really are a rookie.
I'm pretty sure that Hitler himself and all those around him believed that they were True Christians™ and would've said it was you who is wrong. That's the beauty of your religion, you can justify absolutely anything. Furthermore, had Hitler been successful conquering the world, you'd be singing his praise right now and telling people how your god blessed him and gave him the victory.
Now PAY THE FUCK ATTENTION once again ....
It doesn't matter if you think Hitler was a good Christian, or even a Christian, he is not the measuring stick for all mankind. My point is, YOU used him as your example of our "corruptible subjective morality" when in reality, he represented your bull shit "objective god-given" morality. There are millions of Christians just like him. Your objective morality does not exist. As I said before, you can make your BS claims about not being able to have true morality without god, but until you can produce a religion that actually raises the bar you don't have a single leg to stand on.
And finally as a Moderator: Don't you fucking lie again when you respond to me. You can disagree with me all you want, but if you're going to go around making shit up to make your arguments, I'll see to it that you are disciplined accordingly. You watch how you fucking quote people or you won't be here.