RE: Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true
April 23, 2012 at 5:55 am
(This post was last modified: April 23, 2012 at 6:10 am by Jireh.)
(April 22, 2012 at 11:52 pm)Epimethean Wrote: It crosses a lot of minds here.
Why ?
(April 23, 2012 at 2:51 am)Darwinian Wrote: trouble understanding this then there's not much point in continuing this discussion.
you make a lot of pressupositions and assertions, and when i ask you to go into details, you assert that " i don't understand " your assertions. I take it as dodging my questions .......
you aren't credible so far....
(April 23, 2012 at 5:23 am)Ace Otana Wrote: If Craig supports John Barrow and Frank Tipler, they're most likely as retarded as Craig.
And I've just done a quick background check on them. They are retarded.
ok, understood. They are retarded, becase they explain that virtual particles do not arise from absolutely nothing. Could you explain, what makes you come to your conclusion ?
and you could explain also, why i should take you serious.....
Quote:The moment you mention Craig I should punch you in the face.
probably because you are despaired as most atheist oponents, he defeated in his debates ?
Quote:He is a joke. The fact that you're desperate enough to support him shows how desperately you want there to be a god. Don't like the idea that a universe can pop itself into existence. Because it means that god isn't needed.
when the argument cannot be defeated, the proponent is attacked. Its always like this.
So you believe seriously, something can arise from absolutely nothing ?
Could you explain, how something can arise from the absence of any thing ?

Quote:Yeah Stephen Hawking doesn't think despite being the worlds smartest man.
says who ?
Quote:Fact is it's based on observation. Evidence! It's well supported. And using creationists to counter it won't get you very far.
excellent point.
Could you present just ONE observation, where something arose from absolutely nothing ?? you're kidding me......
Quote:I've already told you, atheism simply means without theism.
thats not what you said previously. You admitted you did not understand the science, to conclude strong atheism is true. Getting evasive now ?
Quote:It doesn't require evidence. You claim there is a god and as an atheist I reject that claim.
Theism = Belief in god
Atheism = Lack of belief in god.
Why would atheism need evidence if it makes no claims? It's a stance you twit.
So what are you arguing with me, then ? you make a positive claim, that our universe came to be by absolutely nothing, through virtual particles. And that leads to strong atheism, since you claim then, because of this scenario, most probably God does not exist. You hold a strong atheistic view......
Quote:Are you really this retarded?
personal attacks just show you have no good arguments to defend you view point, and think insults will do it. Are you a teenager ?
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Quote:Just read your earlier posts, you are without a doubt the most retarded person I've encountered this month.
Why are you loosing your precious time then with me ? if i would be you, i would search people of your level to debate with, then.
i dont think we have still something to say each other, do we ?