Re: RE: Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true
April 24, 2012 at 2:28 am
(April 23, 2012 at 6:05 pm)Ace Otana Wrote:Your brain.Quote:You can't know. You can only deduce.With what?
(April 23, 2012 at 6:05 pm)Ace Otana Wrote:I didn't say that you did. I said "if". Reason to think is precicely what you have. But you refuse to think beyond what you already know. (Which is untrue, you just make an exception in this case)Quote:If you say that there cannot be anything besides the physical, then that's a claim against something you can't prove. Conjecture, which materialists should steer clear of unless they want to contradict themselves.But that's not what I said. I never claimed that there cannot be anything besides the physical. I said I see no reason to think that there is. How can you test, measure and confirm it? How can you know?
(April 23, 2012 at 6:05 pm)Ace Otana Wrote:You insist that I make extraordinary claims where I make none.Quote:See a materialist has to say "I don't know" a lot. Nothing wrong with that, except there are a lot of useful things he could know if he made a few intelligent links. Things fall together, a good solution works out from an hypothesis. A materialist almost denies the human ability to think. Thinking is dangerous because it moves out of the realm of certainty.I don't hold hardly anything with absolute certainty. I simply rule out the unproven or unprovable, especially with extraordinary claims. Also depending on it's credibility and value.
When did I say that God was a physically provable entity? You keep banging on with that like someone said it. I think you're arguing with yourself.
(April 23, 2012 at 6:05 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Principles and standards my dear Fr0d0. I stand by scientific principles because they work time and time again. Like Occam's Razer. Stick to the simple until there is evidence for the complex, stick to explanations requiring the fewest assumptions. Use known entities to explain unknown entities. Which is logical procedure. Such principles do a fantastic job of filtering out the nonsense. I never chose to be an atheist, but I did chose to stand by said principles and standards of science.So do I. Please show me how I don't.