JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person?

[NoMoreFaith]

What about out of body experiences of people visiting Heaven and Hell.

Wooosh, unsupported claims debunked and I almost broke my neck at the subject change.

Do you not find it curious that NDE's are based upon the personal experience of those who have them? No knowledge is imparted beyond what could have reasonably been inferred or heard previously.
The experience of an NDE is peculiar to your geographic location and you own beliefs, Muslims see Mohammed, Christians see Jesus, etc etc etc etc

When I was at church I took my friend with me and the pastor began talking about his family and personal issues yet neither knew each other. Later he said they were all true. A lady did this to me also and it was true. Supernaturalism cannot de denied when you are a living witness.

"A lady did it to me also and it was TRUE".

Wow, how can you argue with such a detailed account! I mean look at all the data you've presented.

Spirit mediums have spent centuries performing the cold reading con, it's hardly inspiring from such sketchy details what on earth your claim of supernaturalism actually is here that defies more likely explanations such as unknown prior knowledge, cold reading tricks etc etc.

Secondly, yes, Supernaturalism CAN be denied when you are a living witness.
Otherwise, every bum who sees as a UFO must be believed, every psychic actually talks to the dead, every claim to being healed by God (any God including vishnu and thor).

To quote David Hume;

A miracle is violation of the laws of nature; and as a firm and unalterable experience has established these laws, the proof against a miracle, from the very nature of the fact, is as entire as any argument from experience can possibly be imagined.

In short, your experience of what you perceive to be supernatural, is made improbable by the sheer weight of standard experience.

Take one look at an optical illusion. By your living witness, the illusion is absolutely real and undeniable.
That's ridiculous.

Even if you ignore the materialist argument for improbability, there is the argument from conflicting accounts.

If personal witness to a pastor appearing to have knowledge of a friends situation is proof of Jesus Christ and God, then you must ALSO accept that statues drinking milk from teaspoons is also evidence for the existence of Ganesh (1995, 2006, 2010).

Personal experience is NOT a standard, it is the externalism of your internal convictions transferred upon a mundane event instead of more reasonable explanations and to the exclusion of all but the imagined supernatural ones.

I'm not saying what you "witnessed" is not true, but how would you KNOW that you have not been fooled.

I can do a ton of magic tricks, and you won't be able to explain how I do them... will you automatically assume I can do magic, or would you reason a more mundane explanation? You are a skeptic just like me.. but you clearly suspend your disbelief as soon as your brand of religion pulls something off.