Please present positive arguments why you think atheism is true

[Jireh]

how could transformation, or evolution, of dead matter, happen to self conscience and thougt ?

Abiogenesis and evolution through natural selection.

what a amazing faith you must have.

Abiogenesis is a bankrupt hipotheses. And so, macro evolution through natural selection. Btw. you cannot declare yourself a weak atheist.......

Its simply not possible.

Mere assertion, dismissed as such.

Abiogenesis and evolution through natural selection is also a mere assertion, so i should dismiss it as well, right ?

There is no bridge from one thing to the other.

Self-replicating proteins, single-celled organisms, multi-celled organisms, organisms with brains, organisms with bigger brains, organisms with consciousness (including cetaceans, great apes, and elephants). Seems like a lot of bridges to get from inanimate matter to consciousness and thought.

you take that all on faith..... fact is, the hard scientific evidence leads us to believe, such a scenario is just science fiction, and wishful thinking, nothing else. BTW. could you explain where the information to produce the first self replicating protein came from ?

So by the very own existence of hability of thought, you can deduce logically God exists.

Even if everything you just said had been valid, 'therefore, God' would still be a non sequitur.

why ?

And we'll believe one of them (or some other hypothesis)

is there another one ?

when there is sufficient evidence to justify doing so. Currently they are merely hypothetical, possibilities that do not contradict math or known physics.

oh, so you believe, its phisically possible something to arise from absolutely nothing ?

And there's reason to think the 'absolute nothingness' you refer to is impossible:

i have not said that it would be impossible. But if that would have been, we would not be here today.

there likely never was 'absolutely nothing'.

thats not just likely, but absolutely certain.

To summarize: those aren't claims, they're possibilities. Here's a claim: there is insufficient evidence for anyone to reasonably claim they know the origin of our cosmos with certainty.

thats why i get bored, when atheists ask us, theists, for proofs .....

I don't disagree that it's likely our cosmos began to exist, but until you prove that actual infinities cannot exist, this line of argumentation can't prove the cosmos must have begun to exist.

i think the argument shows it without any doubt.

If I agree with you, then I MUST conclude that no entity could possibly have existed eternally without a beginning. Is that really where you want to go with this?.

the difference relies in, that God lived in a timeless dimension without successive addition of parts ( of time )

It equally supports the notion that prior to the cosmic inflation, the universe was in a very hot, dense state. Whether that came from quantum vacuum or always existed in some form is in the realm of hypothetical physics at this point.

there is overwhelming scientific support, that the universe had a beginning, and a non disputed fact today.

http://elshamah.heavenforum.org/t199-evi...-beginning

Alexander Vilenkin is Professor of Physics and Director of the Institute of Cosmology at Tufts University. A theoretical physicist who has been working in the field of cosmology for 25 years, Vilenkin has written over 150 papers and is responsible for introducing the ideas of eternal inflation and quantum creation of the universe from nothing.

Vilenkin is blunt about the implications:

It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. With the proof now in place, cosmologists can no longer hide behind the possibility of a past-eternal universe. There is no escape, they have to face the problem of a cosmic beginning (Many Worlds in One [New York: Hill and Wang, 2006], p.176).

The proponent of the KCA thus finds himself comfortably seated in the midst of mainstream cosmology.

This is a delusion.

oh really ? why ?

We're in an eternal universe. It will suffer heat death, but it will never cease to exist. And if you're going to quote the laws of thermodynamics as applying to universes, remember the first one that says energy cannot be created or destroyed: if thermodynamics applies to universes, then energy/matter have existed eternally, since they cannot be created.

the physical lawsa apply within the universe, not beyond.....

we theists have it pretty easy to have faith in Gods existence.

Faith is easy. Thinking is hard work.

yes. faith is the result of thinking....

The evidence is obvious.

As obvious as the sun going around the earth.

said who ? certainly not the bible.

I don't believe you for pretty much the same reasons I don't believe people claiming to be UFO abductees were really kidnapped by aliens: I don't deny they had some kind of experience, but I doubt it was what they think it was.

your problem is, you base your belief system in a negative. You show well, how frustrating it is, to try to present positive, compelling reasons for strong atheism, and the naturalistic view to be true.