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JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person?
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RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person?
Quote:I mean there are 365 prophecies of Jesus recorded in the Old Testament



Actually,"Jesus" is a Roman,not a Hebrew name and is not mentioned once. Nor,as far as I'm aware is the name Yeshua/Yoshua bar Yosuf .

Nor did Jesus come close to fulfilling prophecy for the Messiah, beginning with: The Messiah is to be a military as well a spiritual leader,in the Davidic tradition. It is emphatically stated that the Messiah is to be to normal man and most definitely NOT DIVINE.


So far,I have yet to see ANY credible evidence for any kind of precogintion,fortune telling or prophecy. The Christian claims that Jesus met messianic are farcical and I believe essentially dishonest.

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Quote: Isaiah 1:26: "And I will restore your judges as at first and your counsellors as in the beginning; afterwards you shall be called City of Righteousness, Faithful City." Some Jews[4] interpret this to mean that the Sanhedrin will be re-established."(Isaiah 1:26)
Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:11-17)
He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via Solomon (1 Chronicles 22:8-10, 2 Chronicles 7:18)
The "spirit of the Lord" will be upon him, and he will have a "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
Nations will recognize the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
The people of Israel will have direct access to the Torah through their minds and Torah study will become the study of the wisdom of the heart (Jeremiah 31:33)[5]
He will give you all the worthy desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_messianism



Quote:The concept of the messiah seems to have developed in later Judaism. The Torah contains no specific reference to him, though some Jewish scholars have pointed out that it does speak of the "End of Days," which is the time of the messiah.

The Tanakh gives several specifications as to who the messiah will be. He will be a descendent of King David (2 Samuel 7:12-13; Jeremiah 23:5), observant of Jewish law (Isaiah 11:2-5), a righteous judge (Jeremiah 33:15), and a great military leader.

Jews do not believe that the messiah will be divine. A fundamental difference between Judaism and Christianity is the Jewish conviction that God is so essentially different from and beyond humanity that he could never become a human.

Moreover, Jews find no foundation in the scriptures for such a belief about the messiah. Passages viewed by Christians as indicating a divine messiah (such as the suffering servant of Isaiah 53) are viewed by Jews as speaking of the people of Israel. In general, only the following passages are accepted as referring to the messiah:

Isaiah 2, 11, 42; 59:20
Jeremiah 23, 30, 33; 48:47; 49:39
Ezekiel 38:16
Hosea 3:4-3:5
Micah 4
Zephaniah 3:9
Zechariah 14:9
Daniel 10:14
The concept of the messiah seems to have developed in later Judaism. The Torah contains no specific reference to him, though some Jewish scholars have pointed out that it does speak of the "End of Days," which is the time of the messiah.

The Tanakh gives several specifications as to who the messiah will be. He will be a descendent of King David (2 Samuel 7:12-13; Jeremiah 23:5), observant of Jewish law (Isaiah 11:2-5), a righteous judge (Jeremiah 33:15), and a great military leader.

Jews do not believe that the messiah will be divine. A fundamental difference between Judaism and Christianity is the Jewish conviction that God is so essentially different from and beyond humanity that he could never become a human.

Moreover, Jews find no foundation in the scriptures for such a belief about the messiah. Passages viewed by Christians as indicating a divine messiah (such as the suffering servant of Isaiah 53) are viewed by Jews as speaking of the people of Israel. In general, only the following passages are accepted as referring to the messiah:

Isaiah 2, 11, 42; 59:20
Jeremiah 23, 30, 33; 48:47; 49:39
Ezekiel 38:16
Hosea 3:4-3:5
Micah 4
Zephaniah 3:9
Zechariah 14:9
Daniel 10:14


http://www.religionfacts.com/judaism/bel...essiah.htm
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JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Alter2Ego - April 13, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Cinjin - April 13, 2012 at 8:06 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Cinjin - April 14, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - April 30, 2012 at 11:50 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - May 14, 2012 at 12:11 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - May 14, 2012 at 9:37 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 13, 2012 at 10:17 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by padraic - April 13, 2012 at 10:51 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Cinjin - April 14, 2012 at 12:40 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 14, 2012 at 10:46 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Bgood - April 14, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - April 30, 2012 at 12:12 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 15, 2012 at 9:03 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 15, 2012 at 9:20 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 15, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 15, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 15, 2012 at 8:56 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Cinjin - April 15, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Bgood - April 15, 2012 at 9:36 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Reforged - April 16, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - April 16, 2012 at 10:24 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 16, 2012 at 10:26 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 11:33 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 12:01 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by lullaby - April 24, 2012 at 6:43 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by lullaby - April 24, 2012 at 7:26 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - April 24, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by padraic - April 24, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by padraic - April 24, 2012 at 11:12 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by padraic - April 28, 2012 at 10:51 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - May 13, 2012 at 1:29 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - June 2, 2012 at 2:53 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Shell B - April 30, 2012 at 10:03 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - May 14, 2012 at 10:19 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - May 14, 2012 at 10:30 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - May 15, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - May 16, 2012 at 10:29 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by toro - May 16, 2012 at 8:42 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - May 16, 2012 at 8:31 pm

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