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Dilemma for theists!
RE: Dilemma for theists!
(April 24, 2012 at 5:28 pm)C Rod Wrote: The wages for sin are death. So we die, justly. But death is not forgiveness nor atonement, Jesus is.

It seems you don't understand your own words. If the wages for sin is death, then death is the atonement and after death no forgiveness is required. You understand what "wage" means, right? It means that upon dying, you have paid for your sins. Once you have done so, withholding forgiveness on basis of absence of any ass-kissing would not only be unjust, it'd be evil and a sure sign of hatred. That's your god, evil and full of hate.

(April 24, 2012 at 5:28 pm)C Rod Wrote: You would have people spend time in hell, and then allow them to come be with you in heaven. Seems wrong.

Why? That seems much more rational, just and frankly smarter that what your god did.


(April 24, 2012 at 5:28 pm)C Rod Wrote: What would no sin be like?

Contrary to your theology, like every child in the world.

(April 24, 2012 at 5:28 pm)C Rod Wrote: Jesus was sinless, no one can compare to him because no one else is sinless. Anything that happened to him will transcend everyone combined because he deserved no pain, suffering, or discomfort, none. Special pleading.

Good. So you can identify your own logical fallacies. You are correct - the argument you have made here is a logical fallacy called special pleading.
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Dilemma for theists! - by Darwinian - March 22, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Napoléon - March 22, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by znk666 - March 22, 2012 at 2:08 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by NoMoreFaith - March 22, 2012 at 2:12 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Modular Moog V - March 22, 2012 at 4:21 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by simplexity - April 20, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Welsh cake - March 22, 2012 at 4:14 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by King_Charles - April 16, 2012 at 5:06 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Rayaan - March 22, 2012 at 4:18 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Napoléon - March 22, 2012 at 4:20 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by 5thHorseman - March 22, 2012 at 4:56 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by 5thHorseman - March 22, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Neo-Scholastic - March 22, 2012 at 5:45 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by LastPoet - March 22, 2012 at 5:54 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Neo-Scholastic - March 22, 2012 at 6:49 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by 5thHorseman - March 22, 2012 at 6:00 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by kılıç_mehmet - March 22, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Welsh cake - March 23, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Neo-Scholastic - March 23, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by downbeatplumb - March 23, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - March 23, 2012 at 3:50 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Welsh cake - March 23, 2012 at 5:26 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Neo-Scholastic - March 24, 2012 at 12:38 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Cinjin - March 24, 2012 at 3:44 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Welsh cake - March 24, 2012 at 4:53 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Phil - March 24, 2012 at 7:41 am
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Norfolk And Chance - March 24, 2012 at 7:56 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Bueller - March 24, 2012 at 8:13 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by NoMoreFaith - March 24, 2012 at 8:39 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Bueller - March 24, 2012 at 8:41 am
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Welsh cake - March 24, 2012 at 11:25 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - March 24, 2012 at 11:52 am
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Phil - March 25, 2012 at 3:11 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Godschild - March 26, 2012 at 2:44 am
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Godschild - March 27, 2012 at 2:00 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Phil - March 26, 2012 at 3:56 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Darwinian - March 25, 2012 at 3:12 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by KichigaiNeko - March 25, 2012 at 3:13 am
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Cinjin - March 27, 2012 at 8:26 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2012 at 8:28 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Faith No More - March 27, 2012 at 8:30 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2012 at 8:32 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Neo-Scholastic - March 29, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by KichigaiNeko - March 27, 2012 at 8:35 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Godschild - March 27, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by padraic - March 28, 2012 at 2:49 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Faith No More - March 28, 2012 at 7:11 am
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - March 28, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - March 28, 2012 at 8:11 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Faith No More - March 28, 2012 at 8:32 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - March 28, 2012 at 9:14 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - March 28, 2012 at 9:37 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - March 30, 2012 at 12:04 am
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Faith No More - March 30, 2012 at 8:11 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 1, 2012 at 10:31 am
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - March 31, 2012 at 11:08 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by houseofcantor - April 1, 2012 at 11:21 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 1, 2012 at 12:16 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 2, 2012 at 7:30 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2012 at 2:24 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 4, 2012 at 8:04 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - April 4, 2012 at 9:17 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 5, 2012 at 12:03 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - April 5, 2012 at 12:54 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 5, 2012 at 8:24 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - April 6, 2012 at 12:59 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 6, 2012 at 1:42 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Ace Otana - April 6, 2012 at 9:07 am
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 6, 2012 at 8:07 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 6, 2012 at 8:33 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 7, 2012 at 12:06 am
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 9, 2012 at 6:40 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 9, 2012 at 10:13 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 16, 2012 at 6:21 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by kılıç_mehmet - April 17, 2012 at 2:55 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 5:38 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 17, 2012 at 5:41 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 17, 2012 at 6:39 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 6:46 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Godschild - April 18, 2012 at 12:49 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by genkaus - April 18, 2012 at 12:59 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 10:15 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 19, 2012 at 9:08 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2012 at 9:14 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 20, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by genkaus - April 20, 2012 at 8:42 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2012 at 8:19 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 20, 2012 at 9:38 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Jackalope - April 20, 2012 at 9:47 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - April 21, 2012 at 12:43 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 23, 2012 at 6:39 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by genkaus - April 23, 2012 at 8:36 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - April 23, 2012 at 6:43 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 23, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 23, 2012 at 7:30 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - April 23, 2012 at 7:36 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 23, 2012 at 9:39 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - April 23, 2012 at 11:01 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 24, 2012 at 5:28 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by genkaus - April 24, 2012 at 9:10 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 24, 2012 at 5:31 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 26, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by genkaus - April 26, 2012 at 10:00 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 10:05 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 26, 2012 at 10:56 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by genkaus - April 27, 2012 at 12:17 am
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 27, 2012 at 1:25 am
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 2:20 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 27, 2012 at 2:43 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by simplexity - April 27, 2012 at 3:05 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 27, 2012 at 3:14 am
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2012 at 6:05 am
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by KichigaiNeko - April 27, 2012 at 6:37 am
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 27, 2012 at 6:57 am
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by The Grand Nudger - April 29, 2012 at 3:13 pm
RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - April 29, 2012 at 11:15 pm
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RE: Dilemma for theists! - by C Rod - May 1, 2012 at 11:45 pm
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