RE: I am an orthodox Christian, ask me a question!
August 23, 2009 at 6:50 pm
(This post was last modified: August 23, 2009 at 7:11 pm by Jon Paul.)
(August 23, 2009 at 6:48 pm)EvidenceVsDelusion Wrote: If I was JP I'd give evidence. But that would be pretty hard to do if I - being him - didn't have any This is the problem I reckonKeep telling yourself that. In the mean while, I am done with this kindergarten.
I understand he hasn't given evidence, that's what I understand. He has repeated himself and I have repeatedly pointed out that that's not evidence. How is any of it evidence? We've been through it over and over.
You say it's me lacking understanding. I say JP is just another theist like yourself that can't provide any evidence becasue there isn't any.
EvD
(August 23, 2009 at 6:20 pm)EvidenceVsDelusion Wrote: Where does Christ come into all of this, and why not omnimalevolence, why omnibenevolence?Convenient that you are shifting focus. The reasons as to Gods attributes are already answered, and you haven't rebutted any of the arguments. As to Christ, where did I say that this is about Christ? I didnt. This has nothing to do with Christs divinity, but with the existence of God at all and his ontology, as seen in the orthodox Christian perspective.
(August 23, 2009 at 6:20 pm)EvidenceVsDelusion Wrote: It's irrelevant to my argument that if he's identical but temporal and therefore not actus purus, that that is analgous in complexity and improbability to actus purus untill you evidence it otherwise.Now you are just repeating meaningless sentences in light of the invalidity of the way you are using actus purus. I've already refuted your argument. You are just copying from Dawkins, anyway, a philosophical illiterate - "the argument from improbability". You can find many other refutations of it than the one I have given, which even seem more intuitive. The one I give is harder to understand, but it's more ontologically correct.
The people who are the most bigoted are the people who have no convictions at all.
-G. K. Chesterton
-G. K. Chesterton