Communicating with Him

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He referred to Him as God (remember me when You come into "your" kingdom), in that he knew that anything was possible (referring to the resurrection). Knowing about the virgin birth is an opinion, I do see it being this way though, if He did not know of the virgin birth that would not be held against him. You brought up knowledge in the other post, and this would be an argument for not having had full knowledge. Let me ask you a question and there is no need to reply, have you ever considered the other thief and what he said, I mean really giving a deeper thought to his statement and what it says?

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I didn't say he didn't believe he was God. I'm just showing an exception to your little formula.

As for the other thief, he seems to have doubted that Jesus was the messiah. From my point of view, Jesus should have shown he was the messiah to the guy.

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He did, the other thief recognized it. Now why didn't the other thief?

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Problem isn't why the thief didn't believe (it doesn't say why anyway). It's why Jesus didn't attempt to explain to him why he's wrong and perhaps get him to believe. Jesus is a hypocrite here because he just lets the guy die in unbelief. He doesn't go "hey buddy, you're wrong. I am the messiah. This blood I'm spilling, it's for your sins. And I'm the messiah because I fulfill this OT prophecy, and this OT prophecy, and performed all those miracles. In fact, here's another miracle for you if you don't believe me. *turns Roman solider into goat*"

Now that doesn't even hold with the Gospel message, the thief that accepted Christ had no problem, so why do you think the other thief did, why didn't the other thief ask the thief that accepted Christ what he saw in Him. Remember the parable about the rich man in hell, asking Abraham to let Lazarus go to his five brothers and warn them of this hell. Abraham told the the rich man that they had Moses and the Prophets and they did believe them, so they want believe Lazarus. Then the rich man asked Abraham to send someone from the dead, and Abraham replied they would not even believe if someone were resurrected. Could be the Son of God realized the thief was not going to believe. As far as the Roman to goat miracle goes, many saw Jesus do miracles and did not believe.