(May 5, 2012 at 3:15 pm)Darwinian Wrote:(May 5, 2012 at 1:25 pm)libalchris Wrote: So which seems more probable, that a natural process created the "fine-tuned" universe we see today, or that an infinitely more complex and fine-tuned god created the universe as we see it?
A Universe not capable of supporting life will have no-one in it asking why. Therefore, the fact that we are here asking these questions must mean that this particular Universe is capable of supporting life and that life has evolved to fit the Universe and not the other way around.
So, why are things the way they are? Because that's the way they are. If they were different then we would either be asking the same question about a different Universe or not here to ask anything.
Yes, but this is addressing the reason that we overcame the odds. It's addressing, which is more probable? That we overcame the odds (ie, got lucky), that some natural, non intelligent process is responsible for the fine-tuning, or that a highly-intelligent, all-powerful being fine-tuned the universe. Using Occam's razor, the first two seem far more likely.