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Fine Tuning Argument
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RE: Fine Tuning Argument
(May 5, 2012 at 3:38 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote:
(May 5, 2012 at 2:59 pm)libalchris Wrote: In other words, the reason that the universe can only support life when fine-tuned, is because god made it that way.

No because that's not what is happening, I am speaking from a self-destructing creationised view point, thus there god is powerless and there argument is crushed, but the universe does not work like that and life has adapted to the earth which is far from fine tuned.

Ahh, I believe I see what's happening here. I'm referring specifically to the laws of physics. Only an idiot would say that the earth is fine-tuned for life, when it is clearly not overall, and life evolved to fit the earth, not the other way around.
The laws of physics are a little more difficult to deal with however, but the argument ultimately fails under scrutiny, and there are many ways to defeat it. My original post is just one of those ways.

I do agree, however, that the universe is far from being "fine-tuned" for life. Rather, it is just capable of supporting life (even if that is improbable.) It is especially far from being fine-tuned by the standards of an all-powerful god.
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Messages In This Thread
Fine Tuning Argument - by libalchris - May 5, 2012 at 1:25 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Welsh cake - May 5, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 5, 2012 at 2:01 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by libalchris - May 5, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 5, 2012 at 2:35 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Gooders1002 - May 5, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Gooders1002 - May 5, 2012 at 2:08 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Phil - May 5, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Gooders1002 - May 5, 2012 at 9:46 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by libalchris - May 5, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Gooders1002 - May 5, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by libalchris - May 5, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Gooders1002 - May 5, 2012 at 3:51 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Darwinian - May 5, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by libalchris - May 5, 2012 at 3:33 pm

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