(May 7, 2012 at 10:35 am)Ziploc Surprise Wrote:(May 7, 2012 at 3:03 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Inferior in every way?
I guess you never tasted our local crops. This is why they are more famous in Turkey than any imported (non-GM of course) crop.
The imported crops have longer life-shelves, true, but they really cannot cope with the taste of our local, organic crops.
In case you haven't noticed they are a lot of people on this planet. That's a lot of mouths to feed and a lot of pesticides to use. I'm sure those people would prefer to have enough food instead of not enough food (but the little bit of food they get tastes good). Luxury foods will always have a market. Let's not tell the millions of people in the world who have difficulty getting enough food that they must eat cake.
They can feed themselves, if they please.
I rather have our own piece of food from our own piece of earth, rather than the food from some other place, for which we have to buy seeds each and every year from the same manufacturer. I'm not talking about luxury food. This "luxury food", as you call it is available to everyone that visits a Turkish Bazaar. And it's very cheap, if you can haggle the price down, you can get it for better prices at the local super or hypermarket, as you're buying it directly from the producer, not the middleman.
But if GM seeds are popularized in Turkey, I'm pretty sure that this great tradition of a bazaar will eventually wane, as super or hypermarkets need products that have longer shelf lives and better durability, while forgoing the taste. GM food will probably see the end of the direct relationship between the producer and consumer, and put things into the hands of the middlemen, with them having the greatest profits.
The millions of others?
I belive that not a single person on this world is dying due to the lack of food, like a famine. They die due to the lack of buying power.
Quote:Study after study has shown that we are incapable of distinguishing the "luxury" veggies from their Walmart counterparts btw.You aren't, of course. I surely am able to distinguish a "luxury" tomato as you call it, for me a usual commodity at the weekly bazaar, from it's counterparts in the local Migros(a super/hypermarket chain in Turkey).
Quote:The differences we assign to "taste" are a combination of post production handling and logistics. Has nothing to do with whether it's local, organic, or grown on the fucking moon.Oh, sure. And this is why we rather go and do our weekly shopping at the bazaar to buy vegetables, instead of going to the supermarket just a few blocks ahead. There, we can actually go between different producers, looking for the best prices for the best taste. And you can tell me that there really is no difference of taste between this tomato, and that tomato.
Sure. This is why certain places in my country are renown for a specific vegetable, where it's grown most and produces the best of best tastes.
Quote:You know what really kills me btw, where does the "local organic variety" crowd think hybrid ops source the traits from in the first place?Not from a laboratory.
That's for sure.
Quote:LOL, okay Mehm, whatever you say. I'm sure turkish veggies are superior to others, just like everything else in Turkey.Well, just moving beyond the damn vegetables, I don't think that they feed you any "real meat" in wherever you live either.
Most of the farm animals in large slaughterhouses are not fit for slaughter. So they feed them GM grains, like maize and etc. I wonder how their taste can really cope with the animals of a local producer from here, who lets his herds graze on the open.
And fish? Caught fish taste obviously much better than "grown" fish.
I don't know how knowledgable you're about fish, but I've eaten enough of every variety native to our seas to know about it.
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