Quote:Religion does not have a monopoly on morality
God does. All others copy from him. Remember God puishe dCain for His murder long before there were any secular societies thus the secular civilizations copied their moral standards from God.
Quote:t's funny how religious people seem to think non-believers cannot have morals simply because we do not believe in the same thing as you.
Didn't say you couldn't have morals, it is the source of them that we disagree about.
Quote:Evolution led to complex systems like the human brain which allowed humans to start to think.
So funny, so justice came long after humans existed. Kind of unfair don't you think? With God justice and morals were at th ebeginning so all people knew what is was.
Quote:That means evidence my friend
We only have to look to WW2 Japan, Stalinistic Russia, Modern day Somalia for the evidence you seek. We can add in Nazi Germany, communist China, North Korea as well. The Bible teaches to do good to those who do evil, turn the other cheek etc. If you are honest then you will see the difference.
Quote:I don't need training to spot child abuse
Yes you do for even doctors get it wrong. I know of a woman who when her child was young ,a doctor said that her child's injury only came from abuse but the woman did not abuse her child.
So if doctors will err then so will you, you need traiing.
Quote:especially when the child comes out and just says
This is another phenomenom that I have found interesting in thise type of crimes. A child is a minor andnot allowed to enter into contracts, their word is not accepted in most cases in a courtof law and on it goes YET when they say a crime was commited against them then these same children become infallible and wiser than Einstein.
Sorry doesn't wash.
Quote:The church have failed to act in this matter and are as much to blame as Cardinal Brady. How many other abuses have been uncovered in recent years
You assume that all abuse accusations are true. Ever hear of false accusations? Ever hear of over-zealous social workers? I have, read the witchunt in wennatchee and see what people do with children when they have a vendetta against others.
Or what about the forensic scientist (non-believer) who falsified DNA reports and falsely sent people to prison?
You dseem to ignore all these abuses of the system just because a child may have been touched inappropriately and bestow some grand divinity upon the child in question. Sorry but your position fails to meet muster.
Quote:You are making assumptions about people you don't actually know
Yet that is something all atheists seem to do to christians and other religious people.
Quote:Cardinal Brady failed to act in the best interests of the children who were abuse and prevented justice being done.
A false standard that has been created to abuse families who do not do what secular people want and to criminalize innocent people who did nothing wrong. It is also a subjective standard that changes with the person weilding that ideology.
Observers do not have the best interest of the child in mind, they have their own ideas they want enforced. Your whole argument is based upon subjective ideas that can and do change over time and with the people supporting it. You really have nothing to stand upon.
