(May 9, 2012 at 12:08 am)DeeTee Wrote: Read the Bible, this is not the case. It would be unfair to believers to admit people into heaven who only lived a good life and still practiced sin while they repented from their sins and obeyed the teachings of the bible.
Likewise, it's also quite unjust to punish one for the audacity to have ones brain wired in such a way that one believes that which is demonstrable, and can't believe based on wishful thinking and faith.
Perhaps god gave us the gift of intellect in the hopes that we wouldn't exercise it on this one particular topic, or perhaps he wishes us to distrust what our intellect tells us.
Here's the deal. You came to your conclusions about your beliefs based upon your experiences and the manner in which you processed them to form your opinion, subject to cultural and other influences. Guess what? That's precisely how everyone comes to their conclusions. You found the case for god compelling. Others do not.
And guess what? People are perfectly capable of being moral, ethical people either way - just as they are capable of being immoral and unethical. Your system of belief doesn't have a monopoly on morality or ethics, in any way shape or form, no matter how fervently you believe it to be so.
You will disagree, of course. It's your right to be blinded by your prejudice if you choose.
Quote:Someone spoke of fairness in another thread well, here someone is advocating unfairness simply because they want to be in heaven but are unwilling to follow the rules to get there.
Today's free clue: It's exceedingly unlikely that he believes in such a place or is pining to go there. Rather, it's more likely that he finds the conceptual notion of your alleged overlord's concept of justice to be highly flawed and barbaric, and furthermore suspiciously similar to the brand of flawed justice of that time.
But hey, he's god, he does what he wants.
Then again, you won't find many around here who give any of that any credibility. But, if believing that we're just angry at god because we want to have our cake and eat it too works for you, knock yourself out. By the way, that's my nice way of saying, "you're wrong". And yet, you are so smug in your self-righteousness that you can't even see a sliver of how wrong you are. Not about whether god exists, that may possibly be unknowable and I make no claim there, but about your delusions on what atheists believe. You, sir, are wholly without clue on that topic - and that's a fact. Having conversed with many of these people for quite some time, I have come to know what they believe, and you sir, have not.
Oh - and one more thing. You might have found that your reception here would have been an entirely different experience had you bothered to learn what is believed (and why) rather than depend on your own flawed prejudice.
