(May 10, 2012 at 5:33 pm)ElDinero Wrote: Right, aside from the fact that you're now just changing the subject completely, it may not be the case that acceptance of homosexuality exactly 'benefits' everyone, 1. but I would think it benefits the homosexuals quite a bit, wouldn't you? 2. Can you point to an example of a place where the acceptance of it has had a negative effect?
3. Also, what's so special about having 'ancient' examples of things? Don't you think contemporary examples would be more relevant? 4. We don't live in the Bronze Age, so examples of things from the Bronze Age are less impressive to me than are examples of things from the world we currently live in. 5. And in this world, secularism has a proven link with lower crime rates, better health and overall greater happiness of citizens. A cursory glance at some data reveals this, go look it up.
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#1. Their concerns can be dealt with in a different manner than usurping the democratic process and the preference of the majority. They are looking at hospital visits, inheritance etc. all these matters can be fixed without them marrying each other.
#2. Yes--perversion is never a positive and we can say that there is no reproduction thus society loses members and cannot sustain itself.
#3. Having a historical foundation provides credibility, evidence that atheists seek and gives an example of how such an issue is viewed and treated.
#4. There is no such thing as 'the Bronze Age' In today's supposed nuclear age we still have civilizations and societies living in the stone age. The 3 age system is a myth.
#5. Not really. If that were so North Korea would not be torturing its citizens, starving them and China would not be killing so many people etc. Secularism doe snot contribute to lower crime rates as those who claim to be christian yet practice evil things are not really christian and skew the findings.