fr0d0 said:"If you accept the premise then the logic is sound"
That statement is fallacious because in fact the premise is baseless and the logic is unsound.I must admit that JP is well versed in Christian apologetics but that does not diminish his responsibility to prove his premise first before he tries to present logical and sound arguments to support his conclusions.
Since this is an atheist forum I believe that most of us here that are atheist are not clouded by presuppositions regarding the stated premise that God exist,some of us like myself have actually come from that premise.But through logical and reasonable analysis have come to the conclusion that the case for God cannot withstand the scrutiny of reason.I view apologetics in a very poor light,the same goes for theology I don't consider either discipline a legitimate field of study.
In the scientific method you first come up with a theory and then you try to prove or disprove that theory through trial and error and countless hours of observation.Whereas in theology or apologetics you are not trying to prove a theory you are trying to prove a presupposition as a stated fact.Because of your presupposition your method of analysis is biased and flawed since prior to your study you have already made your conclusions.
I am of the opinion that science,logic,and reason do not and cannot coexist with religion since the former is based on observation and scientific research and subjective evidence and the latter is based on myth and a presupposed objective worldview.
That statement is fallacious because in fact the premise is baseless and the logic is unsound.I must admit that JP is well versed in Christian apologetics but that does not diminish his responsibility to prove his premise first before he tries to present logical and sound arguments to support his conclusions.
Since this is an atheist forum I believe that most of us here that are atheist are not clouded by presuppositions regarding the stated premise that God exist,some of us like myself have actually come from that premise.But through logical and reasonable analysis have come to the conclusion that the case for God cannot withstand the scrutiny of reason.I view apologetics in a very poor light,the same goes for theology I don't consider either discipline a legitimate field of study.
In the scientific method you first come up with a theory and then you try to prove or disprove that theory through trial and error and countless hours of observation.Whereas in theology or apologetics you are not trying to prove a theory you are trying to prove a presupposition as a stated fact.Because of your presupposition your method of analysis is biased and flawed since prior to your study you have already made your conclusions.
I am of the opinion that science,logic,and reason do not and cannot coexist with religion since the former is based on observation and scientific research and subjective evidence and the latter is based on myth and a presupposed objective worldview.
There is nothing people will not maintain when they are slaves to superstition
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