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JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person?
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RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person?
(May 13, 2012 at 9:44 pm)Alter2Ego Wrote: Next you will be arguing that 20th and 21st century historians who wrote about the founding fathers of the USA were their contemporaries.

Huh? Why would I argue that? This comment makes no sense.

Quote:A historian doesn't have to be alive at the same time as the person about whom he/she is reporting.

No shit. Except that historians who write about events that happened before they were born cite credible sources.

Quote:All that's required of an expert historian is access to credible documentation.

I agree! Now, please cite the "credible sources" for Josephus's information. If it happened while he was alive, Josephus himself would be the primary source. If it happened before he was born (as is the case with Jesus), Josephus can only offer second hand information, unless he cites an earlier work or official documents.


Quote:Flavius Josephus was a Jewish Pharisee as well as advisor to the Roman Emperor. Both positions gave him access to credible government records from both the Jewish ruling class (the powerful Pharisees who caused Jesus Christ's death) and the Roman ruling class.

Great! Then cite these "credible government records".

Quote:I clearly demonstrated Josephus' prominence in my opening post in which I gave highlights about him.

Are you aware that Josephus only makes brief mention of Jesus, and that the narrative concerning Jesus doesn't flow with the rest of the text? For this reason, many historians believe these verses were inserted later, probably by Eusebius.

Like I said, provide a primary source that mentions Jesus. This would be a source written by someone who was alive at the time Jesus was supposedly alive.

Good luck.

Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.

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JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Alter2Ego - April 13, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Cinjin - April 13, 2012 at 8:06 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Cinjin - April 14, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - April 30, 2012 at 11:50 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - May 14, 2012 at 12:11 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - May 14, 2012 at 9:37 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 13, 2012 at 10:17 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by padraic - April 13, 2012 at 10:51 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Cinjin - April 14, 2012 at 12:40 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 14, 2012 at 10:46 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Bgood - April 14, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - April 30, 2012 at 12:12 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 15, 2012 at 9:03 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 15, 2012 at 9:20 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 15, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 15, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 15, 2012 at 8:56 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Cinjin - April 15, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Bgood - April 15, 2012 at 9:36 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Reforged - April 16, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - April 16, 2012 at 10:24 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 16, 2012 at 10:26 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 11:33 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - April 17, 2012 at 12:01 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by lullaby - April 24, 2012 at 6:43 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by lullaby - April 24, 2012 at 7:26 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - April 24, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by padraic - April 24, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by padraic - April 24, 2012 at 11:12 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by padraic - April 28, 2012 at 10:51 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - May 13, 2012 at 1:29 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - June 2, 2012 at 2:53 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Shell B - April 30, 2012 at 10:03 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - May 14, 2012 at 10:19 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - May 14, 2012 at 10:30 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - May 15, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Thor - May 16, 2012 at 10:29 am
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by toro - May 16, 2012 at 8:42 pm
RE: JESUS CHRIST: Myth or Historical Person? - by Phil - May 16, 2012 at 8:31 pm

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