(May 24, 2012 at 11:10 am)LarissaAnn Wrote: You know I agree with you, different people view marriage differently and perhaps as a result a persons own marriage is the one and only marriage they should worry about. It's flawed, as you say, to say that two consenting adults of the same gender are wrong or worse immoral for being in love and being united in marriage when their union does not harm or affect anyone outside of it at all.I don't think they are immoral or wrong for "being in love" but society sets limits on marriage all the time. Certain types of relative cannot get married if they are too closely related, for example. We banned polygamy even though you can easily be in love with multiple people at once. The ranges for adulthood vary as well--some places a 16 year old can get married with parental consent. Do you also see all those limits as "incredibly hurtful" or even persecution? This is an honest question, because it is something I think about myself. I'm not even trying to debate you here, just trying to understand what are the limits of a pluralistic society.
Currently some of society sees marriage as a romantic gesture between 2 consenting adults, and other people see it as something more. You seem ok with the ancient Greeks having a different definition of marriage, and you even set your own definition: "two consenting adults in love". A lot falls outside of this, and none of it would (directly) affect you either.
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Mary Immaculate, Mother of God.
Chosen before the creation began
Chosen to bring for your bridal adorning
Woe to the serpent and rescue to man.
Sinners, we honor your sinless perfection;
Fallen and weak, for your pity we plead;
Grand us the shield of your sovereign protection,
Measure your aid by the depth of our need.
Bend from your throne at the voice of our crying,
Bend to this earth which your footsteps have trod;
Stretch out your arms to us, living and dying,
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