(May 31, 2012 at 5:58 pm)Cinjin Wrote:(May 31, 2012 at 4:06 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Thats fair enough. I noticed you mentioned we are all products of our childhood. Really don't want to be "that guy" cause you seem a cool and logical guy but have you considered that may be the sole reason you don't just treat the concept of a creator like any other theory and on some level you're aware of that hence your distain for theists and the word belief?
Honestly? Its a complete shot in the dark, don't know anything about your childhood. Only know what my hunch is telling me, I'm probably wrong.
If you don't want to answer thats cool, its really none of my business.
Anything is possible. I'm trying to figure out how to answer questions for my son without putting bias in his head. It's difficult to say the least - it is even more difficult when you try to explain how you "believe" in something without actually believing in it.
What I'm saying is, I think the great majority of people associate belief with worship and if they don't associate it with worship, than they're like me and they still associate belief with ass-hatery. Regardless, for me it's lose-lose, but I spose it's always been that way.
If I could shake this monkey off my back and simply come to the conclusion that there is no god and never think about it again. I would. I've even tried, but the paths I take, the books I read, and the research I do always seems to lead me back to the same conclusion.
Which Is ...
Bible (all the "bibles" of mankind): No Way
fairy tales: Nope
Heaven: Nope
Hell: No, Ridiculous
Devil: No way
Afterlife: perhaps
Traditional god(s): Nonsense
Creator being god: Plausible
Do I believe?
*sigh* How can I say no ... and yet how can I say yes.
You could just say the only thing you can be certain of:
You don't know, none of us do. Belief isn't required to say that.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred.
- Abdul Alhazred.
