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The Creationists' Nightmare
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RE: The Creationists' Nightmare
(June 14, 2012 at 9:47 am)FallentoReason Wrote: To me, it sounds like you think scientists have some sort of agenda. Well, they're dealing with science and science doesn't have an agenda of any sort. Science isn't a movement against deities. It's simply a variety of methods with which we can learn about nature.
I agree that scientists for the most part do not have an agenda. They simply look for naturalistic solutions. That's all good until we run into a solution that may not be natural. Scientists force the natural anyway, because that is their duty. In the process, they run over their own laws, like action->reaction (Big Bang), no energy created or destroyed, and life from non-life. These are all as proven as any theory, yet scientists hold out in the hope that there exists contradictions to these laws somewhere--because science currently contradicts. Science should not stop what it's doing. The public should understand science's limits and continue their studies in philosophy. Science is not grounds for rejecting religion-- that's the error here. Many 'intellectual' atheists use science as a basis for their disbelief in God. As long as those people exist, some scientists will have agendas. Some scientific writers will exploit that audience and manipulate evidence. The scientific method is objective and unbiased... within nature. If the solution is not natural, it is not in science's realm and the method is useless. Add to that the evolutionists who speculate about the past and fail to use the scientific method and you have a lot of unconfirmed information out there. Science pushes the domain of God not because it has convincing evidence, but because it has to have a God-less answer to everything. These answers rely on the assumption there is no God, which may be a faulty premise. I might add that all Evolutionary evidence is circumstantial. Some organisms seem similar, like they might be related. But not one instance of macroevolution had ever been observed. The door is still open for Evolution but, using a different set of assumptions, the door is just as open for Creationism. As long as Science is a closed circuit of information it cannot be sure where Science (itself) came from.
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The Creationists' Nightmare - by Gooders1002 - June 11, 2012 at 11:20 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - June 11, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Rev. Rye - June 12, 2012 at 10:32 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by padraic - June 12, 2012 at 8:29 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Gooders1002 - June 11, 2012 at 11:46 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Minimalist - June 12, 2012 at 12:23 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Gooders1002 - June 12, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Godschild - June 12, 2012 at 3:53 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - June 12, 2012 at 4:15 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by orogenicman - June 12, 2012 at 9:11 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by frankiej - June 12, 2012 at 9:48 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Ace Otana - June 12, 2012 at 9:50 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by hoppimike - June 12, 2012 at 10:29 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Godschild - June 13, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Godschild - June 13, 2012 at 10:38 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - June 14, 2012 at 10:19 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Darwinian - June 14, 2012 at 9:27 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Godschild - June 14, 2012 at 9:37 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Darwinian - June 14, 2012 at 11:15 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Annik - June 14, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Godschild - June 15, 2012 at 12:57 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Norfolk And Chance - June 15, 2012 at 5:35 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 12, 2012 at 4:13 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Godschild - June 12, 2012 at 4:41 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Simon Moon - June 12, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by FallentoReason - June 13, 2012 at 1:33 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by hoppimike - June 13, 2012 at 2:09 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Undeceived - June 13, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Angrboda - June 14, 2012 at 3:06 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Jaysyn - June 15, 2012 at 6:10 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by NoMoreFaith - June 12, 2012 at 4:51 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by The Grand Nudger - June 12, 2012 at 9:21 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by The Grand Nudger - June 12, 2012 at 10:00 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 12, 2012 at 10:12 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Thor - June 12, 2012 at 12:02 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Minimalist - June 12, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 12, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Whateverist - June 12, 2012 at 8:22 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by hoppimike - June 12, 2012 at 8:35 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Minimalist - June 12, 2012 at 11:24 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Angrboda - June 13, 2012 at 9:03 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 13, 2012 at 10:21 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by hoppimike - June 13, 2012 at 2:45 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 13, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Ace Otana - June 13, 2012 at 5:05 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 13, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 13, 2012 at 6:36 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by The Grand Nudger - June 13, 2012 at 8:47 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by hoppimike - June 14, 2012 at 12:07 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by The Grand Nudger - June 14, 2012 at 9:16 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Undeceived - June 14, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Tobie - June 14, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Undeceived - June 14, 2012 at 3:09 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Cato - June 14, 2012 at 3:44 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Undeceived - June 14, 2012 at 4:15 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Cato - June 14, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Undeceived - June 14, 2012 at 8:25 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Norfolk And Chance - June 14, 2012 at 8:40 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Darwinian - June 14, 2012 at 8:42 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 14, 2012 at 9:42 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by FallentoReason - June 14, 2012 at 9:47 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Undeceived - June 14, 2012 at 2:45 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Whateverist - June 14, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Whateverist - June 14, 2012 at 10:04 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by hoppimike - June 14, 2012 at 10:30 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - June 14, 2012 at 10:33 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 14, 2012 at 10:34 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - June 14, 2012 at 11:26 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by The Grand Nudger - June 14, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by The Grand Nudger - June 14, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by frankiej - June 14, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by The Grand Nudger - June 14, 2012 at 3:16 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 14, 2012 at 8:43 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Undeceived - June 14, 2012 at 8:50 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by FallentoReason - June 15, 2012 at 12:26 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Jackalope - June 14, 2012 at 8:55 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Anomalocaris - June 15, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by FallentoReason - June 15, 2012 at 12:24 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Jackalope - June 15, 2012 at 12:36 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by FallentoReason - June 15, 2012 at 12:42 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Jackalope - June 15, 2012 at 2:51 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by FallentoReason - June 15, 2012 at 3:33 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Anomalocaris - June 15, 2012 at 12:25 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by FallentoReason - June 15, 2012 at 1:05 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Godschild - June 15, 2012 at 3:42 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by FallentoReason - June 15, 2012 at 3:46 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Godschild - June 15, 2012 at 4:32 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Darwinian - June 15, 2012 at 4:37 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by FallentoReason - June 15, 2012 at 5:38 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Godschild - June 15, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by frankiej - June 15, 2012 at 6:33 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Godschild - June 15, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Annik - June 15, 2012 at 3:00 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Godschild - June 15, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Annik - June 15, 2012 at 3:32 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Godschild - June 15, 2012 at 10:12 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - June 16, 2012 at 10:02 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Thor - June 15, 2012 at 9:37 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Ace Otana - June 15, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Angrboda - June 15, 2012 at 2:46 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 15, 2012 at 5:28 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 15, 2012 at 5:36 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 15, 2012 at 5:51 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by FallentoReason - June 15, 2012 at 6:27 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 15, 2012 at 7:01 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by FallentoReason - June 15, 2012 at 7:07 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Whateverist - June 15, 2012 at 9:32 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 15, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Faith No More - June 15, 2012 at 6:54 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 15, 2012 at 7:08 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by FallentoReason - June 15, 2012 at 7:12 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Faith No More - June 15, 2012 at 7:12 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by FallentoReason - June 15, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by The Grand Nudger - June 15, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 15, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 15, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by libalchris - June 15, 2012 at 8:11 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Undeceived - June 15, 2012 at 10:57 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Cato - June 16, 2012 at 2:04 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Norfolk And Chance - June 16, 2012 at 10:06 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - June 16, 2012 at 10:15 am
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Undeceived - June 16, 2012 at 1:34 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Anomalocaris - June 16, 2012 at 5:24 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by libalchris - June 16, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by Epimethean - June 15, 2012 at 9:34 pm
RE: The Creationists' Nightmare - by FallentoReason - June 16, 2012 at 12:19 am

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