The Creationists' Nightmare

[libalchris]

The earth is 4.54 billion years old, and the universe 14.6 billion. The evidence for an old universe (being able to actually see stars billions of lightyears away) is just as strong as the evidence for an old earth (different kinds of radiometric dating on different objects giving consistent dates. Thick geological layers that form at very slow rates, and a lot more)

I just discovered these:
http://www.examiner.com/article/grand-ca...tric-dates
http://www.icr.org/article/excessively-o...ava-flows/

If you examined a meta-study, you might find the dates inconsistent (depending on how much leeway you want to give scientists). The picture in the second link is especially interesting (edit: better color picture partway down http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...nas-basalt ). The higher layers are thin and flat. Old layers should be tilted, since pitch indicates erosion. No erosion = young. The higher layers must therefore have been laid down in rapid succession. How do you suppose that happened?

As for stars, their light may be evidence of age, but it is not where God is concerned. He made the stars for us to see. It is logical that the all-powerful Designer of the universe would create the light-trails too, rather than create a mass of rock and wait 14 billion years before adding humans. Or maybe he did, thereby reconciling modern science with Bible. Pick your poison.

Awesome, The ICR, and some political student for sources. For hopefully obvious reasons I'm not going to accept any radiometric dating results from creationists. In case it's not obvious, it's because they have a horrible track record of using radiometric dating incorrectly. I stopped reading when I came across the name Austin. That's the moron who tried to K-Ar date the Mt St Helens eruption.

Also, you should try learning some basic astronomy. (It's absolutely fascinating how much the universe looks old.) God in his infinite wisdom has made many stars that are apparently millions of years old. He has also apparently created the remnants of dead stars when in fact the star never really existed, it just looks like it did. (I suggest reading about light echos) Oh, and don't forget about supernovas from other galaxies. The star we saw from that galaxy never actually existed, God just made it look like it did, and then the light from the supernova arrived.

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The picture in the second link is especially interesting (edit: better color picture partway down http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...nas-basalt ). The higher layers are thin and flat. Old layers should be tilted, since pitch indicates erosion. No erosion = young. The higher layers must therefore have been laid down in rapid succession. How do you suppose that happened?

try reading a geology textbook. Different layers form at different rates, and undergo different amounts of erosion in different places and different times. Some layers show little evidence of erosion, while others show a lot of erosion, or even massive amounts of erosion cutting through several layers; like the fucking massive canyon in Arizona. Perhaps you can tell me why Noah's flood somehow had the strength to carve through a massive canyon like the grand canyon (also somehow in the winding shape of the Colorado River) yet left many places rather untouched.