RE: Can YOU still be a firm atheist after watching these?
June 18, 2012 at 4:41 am
(This post was last modified: June 18, 2012 at 4:52 am by Gambit.)
(June 17, 2012 at 8:54 pm)Shell B Wrote:(June 17, 2012 at 8:32 pm)gringoperry Wrote: That is not a withdrawal, Shell, that is the loss of serotonin. lol Not the same thing. I know that the last thing I wanted to see on an E comedown was more of the stuff. People do crave ecstasy but it is a dependence on the feeling, rather than a physical addiction.
That's not true, Gringo. A withdrawal is a physical symptom caused by cessation of a drug. A rapid decrease in serotonin causes physical and mental symptoms, thus withdrawal. Withdrawal isn't always the shakes. Why do you think they call SSRI withdrawal withdrawal? It is precisely the same thing, a decreased amount of serotonin. By precisely, I mean exactly the same thing.
Now, all of this is irrelevant to my point that is not up to strangers to chastise adults for personal choices. Drug use =/= addiction.
ETA: I accidentally called you by a different name. Whoops.
Drug withdrawal is the physical symptom expressed from the cessation of drugs one is already addicted to or dependent on. The last part is important. The very first time that you take E you feel the shitty comedown; after which you may never feel a desire to take E again. That is neither addiction nor withdrawal. You're confusing the chemical imbalance caused by the use of certain drugs with withdrawal from those drugs. When those chemicals begin dropping below normal levels and the body depends on the drug to ape their affect, then it becomes an addiction or dependency. Again, and this is aimed at everyone discussing addiction: The distinction is made between addiction and dependence for a reason. If we look at every drug as being either addictive or not, then we do not allow for psychological dependence, for example.
And which name would that be?