(June 22, 2012 at 12:40 pm)Voltair Wrote: Oh don't get me wrong, I am an atheist regarding the Christian/Jew/Muslim gods. I also still don't think the existence of any deity has been or is going to be proven. I don't think people who claim they know no gods exist are being illogical either. That would be like me criticizing someone for not being "Agnostic" towards unicorns and fairies.
I did find though that with where I am at, how people understand words etc, Agnostic is a better definition. I would be Agnostic Atheist though but the reason I modified that is partially to shift my own perspective (hyper focusing on Christianity) and because I got tired of misunderstandings.
Agnostic Atheist/Atheist Agnostic/Agnostic could all be the same thing really. Doesn't mean I believe there is a God I am just more outright acknowledging it is an immeasurable/improvable thing based on the current evidence that is offered. Basically... its semantics in mind.
And don't get me wrong. No one knows the future NO ONE.
But in the context of time that is the only way I am an agnostic atheist, only in the context of the future. Currently, because positions can change over time, I am CURRENTLY an outright atheist.
I see nothing RIGHT NOW that would convince me and I see nothing from the past or currently that is remotely credible.
I really can only see myself sliding backwards in a non lucid state. Psychological trauma, or brain trauma or mental illness or brain disease. I would not want anyone if it got to that point, to take anything I say seriously because I would not be lucid.
Hitchens said much the same thing, but Dawkins did not. He foolishly said he wanted his death recorded. But what if he has brain injury or is doped up on drugs?
How many people here would take someone on Bath salts seriously if they claimed they were being eaten by giant ants?