RE: Where did the Jesus myth come from?
June 23, 2012 at 9:43 pm
(This post was last modified: June 23, 2012 at 10:02 pm by FallentoReason.)
(June 23, 2012 at 5:49 pm)average Wrote: Jesus only spoke in parables, is that natural? No. It was all Greek philosophy
I agree.
Brian37 Wrote:People wonder why I hate the word "philosophy"
Hitler had a "philosophy" in "pure race". Slapping such a dangerous and ambiguous word such as "philosophy" is absurd and deadly. Christianity is not a philosophy, it is a club full of people who have the same super hero, and even their fans cant agree on what that super hero wants.
I tend to think that 2000 years ago the mentality of a 'Christian' was conpletely different than what you see today. I don't think it's fair to extrapolate and claim that it's always been about their 'superhero'. I think it was simply the vehicle they used for their philosophy.
Quote:What you are trying to say is that real people and real places mentioned in the bible existed. YES, but that did not make the bible a science textbook.
I have never asserted that and I don't think it's what I'm trying to say currently either.
Quote:And you are saying "there are some nice stories in that book" so "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water"
Yeah I suppose you could say it like that. Not exactly 'nice stories' but more the fact that I believe there's an alternate and possibly correct interpretation that's getting thrown out. I might not be Christian, but my curiosity makes me dig deeper. I don't think I've ever decided to chuck out the bath water with Christianity. For me personally I find it rewarding having a closer look from a different perspective now.
Quote:Islam has the "pillars" which advocate positive things.
Buddhism has the "Noble Truths"
And YES, the bible has nice stories too.
But none of them make the religions true.
Agreed.
Quote:"The New Atheism" a book by Victor Stinger addresses this fallacy of "specialness of label". Our morals are, and have always been evolutionary and while a religion may say some "good" things as Christopher Hitchens said "Name me one good thing said, or good deed done, a believer could do, that an atheist could not".
Pretty interesting quote.
Quote:Christianity and Islam and Hebrews and Hindus, ARE NOT myths in the sense that people believe them and have had a history of passing their stories down. BUT THEY ARE ALL MYTHS in terms of their incantations, prayers, traditions and deities.
The only thing that can be said is a myth in your list is just the deity. There's evidence for their incantations, prayers and traditions that they had.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle