RE: The debate is over
June 30, 2012 at 4:12 am
(This post was last modified: June 30, 2012 at 4:13 am by Tempus.)
(June 30, 2012 at 2:52 am)Micah Wrote: How is asserting that their god is eternal a problem? Many atheists have no problem asserting that the universe has always existed, or that the universe happened out of nothing. Why could the same not be true for god(s)? Why couldn't a god have always existed or happened out of nothing? If it can be said for the universe, why could it not be said for god(s)? There is no way you can prove that it cannot. You might say something about Occam's Razor, and that the simpler answer is that the universe has always existed/happened out of nothing, but that doesn't really mean anything. Occam's Razor is just an idea and is not something that proves truth. Therefore, it is entirely possible, though, in my opinion, not likely, that god(s) exist, and there is nothing that can be said to prove that god(s) do not.
Pointing out that something is unable to be disproven is not the same as making a compelling case for it. You can't disprove I'm an alien, for example. The fact that you can't disprove it isn't a compelling reason to believe it. The reason all their assertions are problematic is because they haven't proven any of them. While I do think a negative can be reasonably proven, it's usually more difficult and most god concepts are formulated in such a way as to be practically unfalsifiable. That being said, I think there's certain gods which can be reasonably said to not exist, including, but not limited to, specific formulations of the Christian god.