(June 30, 2012 at 4:49 am)Micah Wrote: Not all things that cannot be disproved are on the same level. Fairies and the Christian god are not on the same level.
Actually, yes they are. How can anybody say they are NOT?
Quote:I know you didn't reference fairies; I was just using them as an example.
A bad example.
Quote:The person Jesus almost certainly existed.
So what?
Quote:We find out about him not only in Christian texts, but also non-Christian texts. For instance, the writings of Tacitus and Josephus.
So jesus might have been real? Well it's hardly a biggie even if true.
Quote: As to the divinity of Jesus, let us take the Gospel of Mark into consideration. We know that Mark was the author of this gospel because of the writings of Papias, which we get from Irenaeus. He says that Mark was linked to Peter and upon Peter's death there was the dire need to write down the knowledge that Peter possessed. Mark, who would have been familiar with what Peter knew, wrote this down into his gospel. Peter died around 67 C.E. and the Gospel of Mark was written around 70 C.E. It is perfectly possible that Mark adequately wrote down what Peter (an eye witness) knew. This is an adequate argument for the veracity of the gospels, since the other two of the synoptic gospels were clearly derived from Mark. And John, which was written independently of the synoptic gospels, corroborates their accounts. If the gospels are reliable, then their account of Jesus is.
I am a soft atheist, so I do not believe in the divinity of Jesus for various reasons, but how can the above argument not be seen as a good one?
The thing is, I can't believe anybody cares to argue the case for the existence of jesus, it's just a distraction.
The real argument is whether god is real and supernatural. None of the above stated is even close to evidence for that.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.