RE: The debate is over
June 30, 2012 at 7:19 am
(This post was last modified: June 30, 2012 at 7:32 am by Skepsis.)
(June 30, 2012 at 6:57 am)Micah Wrote:Quote:Others things that could have always existed (unfalsifiable): The FSM, the eternally spinning top of fire, the cursed teddy bear, and really anything else you can make up that includes as qualifiers the status of being undetectable. Again, if anything is possible, then nothing makes Gods special. Likewise, it is almost meaningless to qualify something as possible because, like I said before, anything is possible. Until we have a grasp on certainty, the state of affairs won't change, and we may never get there.
Are you serious? The FSM is made up with no evidence. This cannot be compared to Jesus. You have people actually writing about him. Have you been reading any of the other posts? Go back and read about what we know from Papias, which shows how Mark wrote down what Peter (an eye witness) said about Jesus. You don't have to believe in the divinity of Jesus, but comparing Christianity to the FSM is ridiculous.
Do you even understand what the FSM relates to? It is analogous to God. Not Jesus. I don't look to this as a be-all end-all, but it is illustrative of my point that sitting around mentally stroking yourself, wondering what's possilbe, is a waste of time. Admitting that anything is possible is one thing, but to discuss it with any seriousness is another.
And just for kicks, I figure I'd make it clear that I'm apathetic towards the idea of Jesus's existence. I haven't looked into it, and don't care to. I generally concede his existence when spoken to on the subject. That said, his divinity is another matter entirely. Conceding Jesus is simple, but conceding the divine nature of his pig exorcisms and the whatnots is just silly without some crazy evidence. And I'm not talking about some vague, almost ambigous reference from a historian about "Jesus" that could have been a reference to Christian dogma at the time.
My conclusion is that there is no reason to believe any of the dogmas of traditional theology and, further, that there is no reason to wish that they were true.
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell